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What dosen't make sense to me is that they have Temple of Doom in the video game but no sets.

Dr.Cogg wrote:What dosen't make sense to me is that they have Temple of Doom in the video game but no sets.

Well, not really.

The Lego Star Wars titles have plenty of figures and specialised alien elements that don't appear in real life. I'd say in this respect the games are more to go hand-in-hand with the original movies rather than the actual Lego theme.

Still, back to the topic in hand, it is a rather disappointing omission.

RichardAM wrote:

Dr.Cogg wrote:What dosen't make sense to me is that they have Temple of Doom in the video game but no sets.

Well, not really.

The Lego Star Wars titles have plenty of figures and specialised alien elements that don't appear in real life. I'd say in this respect the games are more to go hand-in-hand with the original movies rather than the actual Lego theme.

That's true, but if Indy 2 is included in the game, how can Lego say that the movie is too dark? Plus the Star Wars games really only included new figures, which may or may not be produced someday. They didn't include a whole movie that was omitted from the toy line up.

Steve

I think the reason Indy 2 was in the video game and not made into sets is because LEGO is making the sets while the Video Game is produced by Lucasarts. Two different companies can obviously have different takes on the same thing.

Voran_the_Scholar wrote:That one was soooooo creepy. And they might have hit a stumbling block over the whole child slavery, voodoo, removing a man's heart from his chest as a sacrifice thing.

Temple of Doom featured no voodoo. Rather, it used the (supposed) practices of the infamous Thuggee cult as plot elements.

Thuggee:



Voodoo:



For what it's worth, I've always been a huge fan of Temple of Doom ever since I ran screaming from the theater the first weekend it opened. True, it is a darker film (especially compared with Last Crusade), but then folks seem to gloss over some of the nastier elements of Raiders of the Lost Ark (melting Nazis, Marion in the burial chamber, the eeriness around the ark).

Also, Temple of Doom fits perfectly in the tradition of the "Indian adventure" archetype of pulp adventure stories and pulls more than a bit of inspiration from the likes of Gunga Din. The classic Hammer film, The Stranglers of Bombay, also features the Thuggee at their best. Those always were more brutal tales, with savage natives who seek to appease dark deities with bloody religious rites. I'd posit that those dark elements make the story more thrilling. There's a reason folks tend to talk much more passionately about Raiders of the Lost Ark and Temple of Doom than Last Crusade (easily the lightest of the trilogy)

Kali ma, shakti de!
(Mother Kali, give me strength)

badger

No DOOM?

What a tragic world it would be without DOOM!

Please reconsider LEGO©.

Please.

I thought of a good idea if Lego wanted to make Temple of Doom set,all they have to do is make them lego shop at home exclusives,then they wouldn't have to worry about offending anyone or about the sets being to dark because only adult could buy them for themselves or their kids.

the enigma that is badger wrote:

Voran_the_Scholar wrote:That one was soooooo creepy. And they might have hit a stumbling block over the whole child slavery, voodoo, removing a man's heart from his chest as a sacrifice thing.

Temple of Doom featured no voodoo. Rather, it used the (supposed) practices of the infamous Thuggee cult as plot elements.

badger

Actually, they did use voodoo. I distinctly remember the child king holding a doll of Indy over a fire and Indy acted as is though he was getting burned, not the doll. And when Indy is fighting that big guy in the mine, the kid is doing similar stuff. That is outright VOODOO....

The practice of using dolls like that is for cursing or inflicting pain is, though commonly associated with Voodoo, not unique to Voodoo. I think I read somewhere that it's European in origin.

Wether it's present in Thuggee/Indian/Asian culture, I have no idea.

After reading this i realized why my parents wont let me see this.

I remember watching The Temple of Doom when I was 10, just me and my older sister alone for the night in my uncle's big house. It was scary as Mega Bloks! Watching it today, 15 years later, I still find it somewhat creepy. It is by far the darkest of the Indy series, so in some ways I can understand LEGO leaving it out.

It was pretty dark, but I think they should just avoid the dark scenes and make sets from the exciting action parts. Rather than just dumping the whole movie.

Steve

Personally, as stated earlier in this thread, I absolutely agree with you. What I meant was, I can understand why LEGO drop it, even if I think they shouldn't.

Do you think many kids are allowed to watch the other two, but not Doom? If so, the Doom sets are probably less interesting to them.

If LEGO are to continue releasing Indy sets, avoiding the Doom resource will probably be harder and harder by the set.

Athos wrote:It was pretty dark, but I think they should just avoid the dark scenes and make sets from the exciting action parts. Rather than just dumping the whole movie.

TLC has already followed this approach with all of the Indy sets thus far; they've avoided explicit references to any elements from the films that might be an issue: Germans are simply called "Guards" and the Ark of the Covenant is just "treasure."

As they've shown a willingness to incorporate moments of the Jones films in ways that are appropriate to their core audience, I don't see why TLC could adapt some of the more memorable action set pieces (Mine Cart Chase and Collapsing Bridge have great examples that have previously been cited) into sets.

badger

I don't see what the issue is here. Lego has already made Temple of Doom sets


On a more genuine note...the movie was on just a few days ago, actually. I admit that I didn't see the whole film, but I did see most of the climax. It was a good movie but I do think the scenes in the caves, with a pretty gratuitous human sacrifice, the cult imagery and the 'demonic' possession were needlessly intense and it's not hard to see why Lego would want to move away from it. That said, the minecarts and the bridge climax would make good Lego sets. All they'd have to do is avoid making the cavern scenes.