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Bullet Helms and REAL Bows please.

Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 1:24 am
by SPACE MARINE
Lego, please bring back the bullet helm, along with the real bows, my minifigs are complaining about the lack of bullet helms and the load time of crossbows. I know you abandoned that because the chinstrap was kinda thin, but that can change. My archers are :cry: ing.

Re: Bullet Helms and REAL Bows please.

Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 6:41 pm
by Tower of Iron Will
Although I like crossbows, more bows would be nice. Perhaps a balance, say, for each crossbow equiped figure there could be a bow equiped figure as well.
-Tower

Re: Bullet Helms and REAL Bows please.

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 1:44 pm
by architect
The crossbow should take a several year hiatus. Archers and bullet helms would be a good addition to future castle sets. Each tower in a castle should have an archer.

Ben

Re: Bullet Helms and REAL Bows please.

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 4:33 pm
by davee123
SPACE MARINE wrote:I know you abandoned that because the chinstrap was kinda thin,
Is that true? I've had the old style motorcycle helmets break on the chinstrap, but I've never had the bullet helm chinstraps break, or the new motorcycle helmet chinstraps. Last time it was used was what, 2002?

Oddly enough, I've broken more flare helmets (the nose guards), and those have been in use from 1978-2010 without any change that I'm aware of!

DaveE

Re: Bullet Helms and REAL Bows please.

Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 2:33 am
by Ye Olde Republic
This is news to me but maybe it's time for the LEGO pope to ban the crossbow again.

Re: Bullet Helms and REAL Bows please.

Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 1:34 am
by Elephant Knight
Ye Olde Republic wrote:This is news to me but maybe it's time for the LEGO pope to ban the crossbow again.
I totally concur with this statement.

EKnight

Re: Bullet Helms and REAL Bows please.

Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 3:15 am
by Redav
davee123 wrote:Is that true? I've had the old style motorcycle helmets break on the chinstrap, but I've never had the bullet helm chinstraps break,
I have had many. They split through the middle.
davee123 wrote:Oddly enough, I've broken more flare helmets (the nose guards), and those have been in use from 1978-2010 without any change that I'm aware of!
Had a couple of those occur too.

Re: Bullet Helms and REAL Bows please.

Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 6:15 pm
by Heir of Black Falcon
I do not see why TLC could nto simply keep both in use. If they did not want to have one faction using both then have the rival factions armed differently, one with bows, the other crossbows. I agree it is time for the return of the bow.

Heir of BF

Re: Bullet Helms and REAL Bows please.

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 2:29 pm
by SPACE MARINE
Yes, diversity is welcome, I would probably use the crossbow with a more advanced factions, with less noble intent, and semi sentient swarms. Like a skeleton a hivemind that broke free of the Necromancer, and is now kept alive by a magical Elven Sword.

The bullet helms and bows are a must though.

Re: Bullet Helms and REAL Bows please.

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 5:16 pm
by Quickblade22
Hmmm....just noticed this today. Maybe bows are on their way back, but with a slightly different design. Here is the original:
Image

And here is the one with the new Elf minifig in the pic provided by Heir of Black Falcon.
Link

If all else fails, I know a certain customizer that has 2 different versions available..... just saying :wink:

Re: Bullet Helms and REAL Bows please.

Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 7:02 pm
by davee123
Quickblade22 wrote:Hmmm....just noticed this today. Maybe bows are on their way back, but with a slightly different design.
I believe the Chinese facilities have their own versions of molds that are different than the "standard" ones. So if we see bows coming out in normal sets, they'll probably be just like they always were. But if we see bows coming out in Chinese sets (minifigs, magnets, collector sets, etc), then we might very well see the new design.

IIRC, that's true for a few of the elements, such as minifig arms (Chinese version has square indent) and pistols (gun sight is larger, I think?). So I'm thinking this is just another instance where they've just done their own new mold in China, and not bothered to make sure it matches the old one.

DaveE

Re: Bullet Helms and REAL Bows please.

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 6:03 am
by Frank_Lloyd_Knight
Quickblade22 wrote:Hmmm....just noticed this today. Maybe bows are on their way back, but with a slightly different design. Here is the original:
Image

And here is the one with the new Elf minifig in the pic provided by Heir of Black Falcon.
Link

If all else fails, I know a certain customizer that has 2 different versions available..... just saying :wink:
The image of the bow you've posted actually looks like the one produced with the Robin Hood figure from the Series 1 collectible minifigures. It's slightly different from the old castle bows. The easiest way to tell is that the bowstring is drawn at a slightly more accute angle in the new Robin Hood bow, than it is in the older bows. But the last time I checked, Bricklink was treating them as if they were the same bow. So in addition to the elf bow, it looks like a total of three versions as far as I can tell. (The old bow I'm using for reference came from set#6022.)

Re: Bullet Helms and REAL Bows please.

Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 2:48 pm
by SPACE MARINE
I actually prefer the elf-bow over the normal Lego bow, as the normal Lego bow is a short-bow. I hope if the bow returns, it will be the elven bow. The elven bow is more like a longbow. Although, I did find a good way to make non cut longbows for dwarves without the drawstring. It's as simple as using those bull horns the bull men had, especially considering that in most fantasies, dwarves make their bows of horn because they are too strong for wood.

@Quickblade: Yes, I knew about BF and loved their products, I'm even a forums member, but that would still keep new KFOLs away from the experience of arming minifigs with bows, as most do not know about BF, and most of those who do know have parents who think it's a rip-off in one form or another.

Re: Bullet Helms and REAL Bows please.

Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 6:59 pm
by Quickblade22
I believe the Chinese facilities have their own versions of molds that are different than the "standard" ones. So if we see bows coming out in normal sets, they'll probably be just like they always were. But if we see bows coming out in Chinese sets (minifigs, magnets, collector sets, etc), then we might very well see the new design.
My speculation was in reference to hearing about molds becoming old and replaced rather than where they are produced.
The image of the bow you've posted actually looks like the one produced with the Robin Hood figure from the Series 1 collectible minifigures.
I don't own that figure, so it wasn't at the top of my mind.
@Quickblade: Yes, I knew about BF and loved their products, I'm even a forums member, but that would still keep new KFOLs away from the experience of arming minifigs with bows, as most do not know about BF, and most of those who do know have parents who think it's a rip-off in one form or another.
My comment was directed toward the CC community. Hobbies aren't free, but I'd say $1 for a choice of 2 bows in over 12 different colors in hardly a rip off :wink:

Re: Bullet Helms and REAL Bows please.

Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 9:00 pm
by SPACE MARINE
I know sad to see that whenever I show some target aged kids a picture of an archer, they point at the bow and ask me what in the world it is. I personally do not find BF to be a rip-off, I enjoy customizing, but I don't want to leave puritans in the dust for new bows. I would love the return of the bullet helm as much as the bow. Bullet helms are really good looking and they would go excellently in dark pearl gray on the new era dragons. It would really fit the dragons well, as they seem less advanced, and more siege oriented. The bows and bullet helms would fit their siege tactics as bows were used to fire flaming arrows.