If "imitation is the sincerest form of flattery" then I think that 1592 Town Square qualifies as the most admired Lego set ever.
Now, for castle-heads like me, the main draw of this set is four (count 'em: FOUR!!!) Lion/Heart shields.
But that doesn't explain this outpouring of creativity. No other set I know of has generated this kind of response. What are YOUR thoughts on these variations?
I hope you enjoy them as much as me.
Alan
Oldie but Goodie #2: Town Square 1592 - Variations
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Hmm, Brickshelf seems to be down right now. I'm assuming your link is to Holger's gallery of these? I made these three:
http://www.ozbricks.com/bricktales/misc ... tmain.html
My favorite part was the challenge of trying to come up with items for each place in the layout that matched both the original set and my chosen theme.
Some time it would be fun to do a contest along these lines with a different set.
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My favorite part was the challenge of trying to come up with items for each place in the layout that matched both the original set and my chosen theme.
Some time it would be fun to do a contest along these lines with a different set.
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Hello!
Actually, as humble as I am, it was me along with the herrminator who started the whole fifteentwentyninemania. The beginning of all that was this posting in the 1000steine forum from August 2000:
http://f22.parsimony.net/forum44542/messages/4776.htm
Herrminator answered my post there, followed by another 1592-variation suggestion by myself.
The meaning of my 1592 story is that the whole hype about this set and the many variations had somewhat killed the legend. Most of the variations are simply transfers to other official LEGO themes but they don't breathe the breath of legend that once ambiented this model. And while most of the variations done by so many different people are really nice and proper work, they however, are missing the most important aspect: they are not funny. And fun was the spur that brought life to the legend. When the herrminator built the Classic Space version it was new and unexpected and funny. But simple building one theme variation after the other became lame.
Most participants didn't even know *why* the set 1592 was a legend. Maybe they thought "because it is rare and hard to come by", but that's not the reason. The main reason was: It's been the only serious Town set that TLC ever released. Every other house they released was called "holiday home", "weekend cottage" and the like, there was not a single house in the Legoland town for the working population to live in :-) Except this halftimbered house near the old townwall. It even has a bookshop. A bookshop! A place of cultural life! A place for a minifig to work in.
So whensoever the conversation in the 1000steine forum was about "Town" we referred to the only serious Town set: 1592. But, as said before, the background was never transported by the many variations.
This is why my own variation was called "End Of a Legend". The pics in the right order (with German text) can be seen here:
I had a second variation in the pipeline (not a simple LEGO-theme-variation) but after the hype about this set became so big I dismantled the half-built model again.
Bye
Jojo
Do I have a version of it!Scnicker wrote:Also Jojo has a modified version of it there :)
Actually, as humble as I am, it was me along with the herrminator who started the whole fifteentwentyninemania. The beginning of all that was this posting in the 1000steine forum from August 2000:
http://f22.parsimony.net/forum44542/messages/4776.htm
Herrminator answered my post there, followed by another 1592-variation suggestion by myself.
The meaning of my 1592 story is that the whole hype about this set and the many variations had somewhat killed the legend. Most of the variations are simply transfers to other official LEGO themes but they don't breathe the breath of legend that once ambiented this model. And while most of the variations done by so many different people are really nice and proper work, they however, are missing the most important aspect: they are not funny. And fun was the spur that brought life to the legend. When the herrminator built the Classic Space version it was new and unexpected and funny. But simple building one theme variation after the other became lame.
Most participants didn't even know *why* the set 1592 was a legend. Maybe they thought "because it is rare and hard to come by", but that's not the reason. The main reason was: It's been the only serious Town set that TLC ever released. Every other house they released was called "holiday home", "weekend cottage" and the like, there was not a single house in the Legoland town for the working population to live in :-) Except this halftimbered house near the old townwall. It even has a bookshop. A bookshop! A place of cultural life! A place for a minifig to work in.
So whensoever the conversation in the 1000steine forum was about "Town" we referred to the only serious Town set: 1592. But, as said before, the background was never transported by the many variations.
This is why my own variation was called "End Of a Legend". The pics in the right order (with German text) can be seen here:
I had a second variation in the pipeline (not a simple LEGO-theme-variation) but after the hype about this set became so big I dismantled the half-built model again.
Bye
Jojo
This is just the sort of nonsense up with which I will not put.
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That would be fifteen hundred and ninty twomania...Jojo wrote:Hello!
Do I have a version of it!Scnicker wrote:Also Jojo has a modified version of it there
Actually, as humble as I am, it was me along with the herrminator who started the whole fifteentwentyninemania.
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Jojo,
Thanks so much for filling in the history of the 1592-Variations page. Your eloquent description of the 'life-elements' of the set confirms its Legend status. My own thought at identifying why it is special merely centered on the fact that it wasn't a gas/fire/police station!
I think you're being a bit harsh in describing the resulting variations as "lame" or "not funny" as far as honouring the uniqueness of the set. While most people would not have been able to specifically identify its uniqueness (as you did), the ability to mimic the set in such a wide array of themes does actually reinforce and trumpet how wonderful the original set was.
Can anyone identify another set that contained life-elements that could be expressed across so many themes and ideas? No, I don't think so. While people may not have been able to cognitively identify the life-elements in this set, they were able to express them creatively in other themes.
Both you and the herrminator are to be applauded for bringing to light for people like me the wonders of this set. (It was the Venetian rendition that made me aware of the variations page). The creative responses may not have been to your liking (can anyone control creativity?) but the benefits to the likes of me and many others is in no way diminished.
Again I say, thank you.
Alan
Thanks so much for filling in the history of the 1592-Variations page. Your eloquent description of the 'life-elements' of the set confirms its Legend status. My own thought at identifying why it is special merely centered on the fact that it wasn't a gas/fire/police station!
I think you're being a bit harsh in describing the resulting variations as "lame" or "not funny" as far as honouring the uniqueness of the set. While most people would not have been able to specifically identify its uniqueness (as you did), the ability to mimic the set in such a wide array of themes does actually reinforce and trumpet how wonderful the original set was.
Can anyone identify another set that contained life-elements that could be expressed across so many themes and ideas? No, I don't think so. While people may not have been able to cognitively identify the life-elements in this set, they were able to express them creatively in other themes.
Both you and the herrminator are to be applauded for bringing to light for people like me the wonders of this set. (It was the Venetian rendition that made me aware of the variations page). The creative responses may not have been to your liking (can anyone control creativity?) but the benefits to the likes of me and many others is in no way diminished.
Again I say, thank you.
Alan
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The two most important days of your life are the day you are born
and the day you discover why. (Donald Sensing)
One plus one equals three... for large values of one. (Bruce Fournier)
The two most important days of your life are the day you are born
and the day you discover why. (Donald Sensing)
One plus one equals three... for large values of one. (Bruce Fournier)
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Oh yeah, fifteennintytwo. I'm kind of dysnumeric...
When I said the various adaptions weren't funny I meant they didn't capture the kind of fun that once started the 1592-cult and that is basically to it. Naturally the builders had fun building their variations and of course each variation is funny in its own right. But as I said, eventually it became merely a matter of time when somebody would come up with an xy-theme-version of it, the spontaneity got lost: There was the Paradisa-version, check. Ah, the Pirates-version, check. And so on. I myself could appreciate the non-Theme-based variations better because they brought in something new.
Bye
Jojo
Oh yeah, fifteennintytwo. I'm kind of dysnumeric...
Haha! Right. No race course either ;)footsteps wrote:My own thought at identifying why it is special merely centered on the fact that it wasn't a gas/fire/police station!
OK, I was harsh. I described what made the legend status for me and what, on the other hand, killed this status. Of course most people's appreciation of this truely great set is not affected by my views. And that's a good thing.I think you're being a bit harsh in describing the resulting variations as "lame" or "not funny" as far as honouring the uniqueness of the set. While most people would not have been able to specifically identify its uniqueness (as you did), the ability to mimic the set in such a wide array of themes does actually reinforce and trumpet how wonderful the original set was. (...) The creative responses may not have been to your liking (can anyone control creativity?) but the benefits to the likes of me and many others is in no way diminished.
When I said the various adaptions weren't funny I meant they didn't capture the kind of fun that once started the 1592-cult and that is basically to it. Naturally the builders had fun building their variations and of course each variation is funny in its own right. But as I said, eventually it became merely a matter of time when somebody would come up with an xy-theme-version of it, the spontaneity got lost: There was the Paradisa-version, check. Ah, the Pirates-version, check. And so on. I myself could appreciate the non-Theme-based variations better because they brought in something new.
Bye
Jojo
This is just the sort of nonsense up with which I will not put.
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My favorites were (and still are) the Stormtide and the Ruins. The Stormtide is simple but smacks of genius (how many of us would have thought to make that?). The ruins are just fun and I am a sucker for ruins. 
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I also thoroughly enjoyed the ruins.
I would also like to agree with Jojo. Yes, having everyone do a "version" of
the set has lost some of its humour (having read the story). Thanks Jojo,
btw, for the insight.
Though I must say, the amount of work involved in adapting each variation
is quite extensive.
and thanks to Footsteps for highlighting this great set (and its varients)
to this site.
Ben
I would also like to agree with Jojo. Yes, having everyone do a "version" of
the set has lost some of its humour (having read the story). Thanks Jojo,
btw, for the insight.
Though I must say, the amount of work involved in adapting each variation
is quite extensive.
and thanks to Footsteps for highlighting this great set (and its varients)
to this site.
Ben
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