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Re: 10193 Medieval Market Village - Official Thread

Postby Chuck06 » Fri Jun 26, 2009 7:20 pm

I just bought a copy this past weekend at the new Cincinnatti store (note to self: visit lego store on grand opening weekend=long wait to enter store).

Here are some comments.

Some pluses:
-awesome piece/price ratio--1600+ for $100
-great piece mix, especially the accessories (Turkey!)
-dark brown barrels
-brick built tree with lots of large leaf pieces
-comedic value in set design (brown carrots as horse poo)
-intricate design details, particularly the furniture
-great figure mix, including several new civilian torsos
-cows

minor minuses:
-blacksmith/stables lack stairs to 2nd floor
-second floor of blue building has no door, just open.
-choice fo light blue as major builidng color (just not my first preference)

The minor minuses are just that, minor. All in all, I vote this one of Lego's best castle sets.
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Re: 10193 Medieval Market Village - Official Thread

Postby burkey42 » Tue Jun 30, 2009 10:08 am

Chuck06 wrote:I just bought a copy this past weekend at the new Cincinnatti store (note to self: visit lego store on grand opening weekend=long wait to enter store).

Here are some comments.

Some pluses:
-awesome piece/price ratio--1600+ for $100
-great piece mix, especially the accessories (Turkey!)
-dark brown barrels
-brick built tree with lots of large leaf pieces
-comedic value in set design (brown carrots as horse poo)
-intricate design details, particularly the furniture
-great figure mix, including several new civilian torsos
-cows

minor minuses:
-blacksmith/stables lack stairs to 2nd floor
-second floor of blue building has no door, just open.
-choice fo light blue as major builidng color (just not my first preference)

The minor minuses are just that, minor. All in all, I vote this one of Lego's best castle sets.


Not trying to start an arguement but brick colour is a minor minus - agreed. The stairs, open door, and chimney connectivity are structurally incorrect - major minus (is a minifig going to pole vault through a window to get into bed?) I could go on about the door at the bottom of the Tavern opening the wrong way (should open against a way for maximum floor space.) I spent AUD $164 on this set to find that modifications were needed to make the houses on par with DS creations and MOCs I've seen on BS and the like.

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Re: 10193 Medieval Market Village - Official Thread

Postby timber_wolf899 » Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:58 am

You guys in youre nitpick nervana are i think missing the major point of this set. It is not to say that the set is perfect, nothing is. You guys could find problems with stonebarrow keep, guarded church, etc just as easilly as you can with MMV.

So if the point is not to argue the set is flawless, then what is it? The point my friends, is what you notice when yous et MMV beside any other company produced castle set. It is the Farrari next to a Ford Focus!
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Re: 10193 Medieval Market Village - Official Thread

Postby burkey42 » Wed Jul 01, 2009 2:42 am

timber_wolf899 wrote:You guys in youre nitpick nervana are i think missing the major point of this set. It is not to say that the set is perfect, nothing is. You guys could find problems with stonebarrow keep, guarded church, etc just as easilly as you can with MMV.

So if the point is not to argue the set is flawless, then what is it? The point my friends, is what you notice when yous et MMV beside any other company produced castle set. It is the Farrari next to a Ford Focus!


I got the main point of the set - it's a MMV. I agree, nothing is perfect and I am merely putting my thoughts across as to my perceived major shortfalls of the set. Nothing some Bricklink spending can fix. Everyone is entitled to express, via a post in a forum thread, related thought/opinion/notes on a topic. And yes, I probably would find problems or things I didn't like about any keep, church or MOC I decided I wanted to post against.
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Re: 10193 Medieval Market Village - Official Thread

Postby puddleglum » Wed Jul 01, 2009 3:45 am

So many things are great about this set, any flaws are just background noise in my opinion. It's a huge non-conflict-oriented village/market castle set! With tons of detail! And peasants! And furniture! And lots of great parts! For a very reasonable price! And cows! Turkey! Fish! Brick-built birds! Did I mention peasants! :D

Everyone is indeed entitled to their opinion, but I'd say if the flaws in this set are anything more than a minor annoyance to you, you're probably looking at a long life of being disappointed by official LEGO sets. :wink:
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Re: 10193 Medieval Market Village - Official Thread

Postby burkey42 » Wed Jul 01, 2009 7:50 am

puddleglum wrote:So many things are great about this set, any flaws are just background noise in my opinion. It's a huge non-conflict-oriented village/market castle set! With tons of detail! And peasants! And furniture! And lots of great parts! For a very reasonable price! And cows! Turkey! Fish! Brick-built birds! Did I mention peasants! :D

Everyone is indeed entitled to their opinion, but I'd say if the flaws in this set are anything more than a minor annoyance to you, you're probably looking at a long life of being disappointed by official LEGO sets. :wink:


I'm not backing down on this one (btw, I purchased two MMVs - one for show, one for go) because IMO 'the flaws' are serious oversights. My first castle set was a yellow castle in 1978. There are flaws all through that, like how do minifigs get to the towers or even the grey walkway. 30 years later, the demands for complexity should mean that TLG doesnt oversight things like the ability to reach the second floor of a building (especially when the other building in the set has external stairs.)

TLG will never provide a flawless set. That's one of many reasons why people MOC and why I'll be MOCing my MMV, Drawbridge Defence and Trolls' Mountain Fortess in 2009.

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Re: 10193 Medieval Market Village - Official Thread

Postby RichardAM » Wed Jul 01, 2009 1:24 pm

Shut up and build.

Either improve the MMV with the additions you think it needs or build your own version from scratch.
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Re: 10193 Medieval Market Village - Official Thread

Postby Aculon » Wed Jul 01, 2009 2:13 pm

RichardAM wrote:Shut up and build.

That could be a funny sig qoute! But anyway...

The MMV is a pretty cool set. Maybe someday...

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Re: 10193 Medieval Market Village - Official Thread

Postby burkey42 » Thu Jul 02, 2009 8:46 pm

RichardAM wrote:Shut up and build.

Either improve the MMV with the additions you think it needs or build your own version from scratch.


Nice adult response. Sorry for not posting to your standards. I will build, you grow up.
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Re: 10193 Medieval Market Village - Official Thread

Postby Bluesecrets » Thu Jul 02, 2009 8:57 pm

Okay Gentlemen. Your bickering is threatening to lock this thread. This very important thread about a good castle set. Settle down. Stop coming close to violating TOS. Here have a quick review of it:

There is no flaming. Flaming makes for a negative atmosphere and it will not be tolerated. That means you should avoid yelling at and needlessly criticizing other members.

There is no trolling. Trying to force someone into an argument is not allowed.


http://www.classic-castle.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=2547
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Re: 10193 Medieval Market Village - Official Thread

Postby burkey42 » Thu Jul 02, 2009 10:35 pm

Bluesecrets wrote:Okay Gentlemen. Your bickering is threatening to lock this thread. This very important thread about a good castle set. Settle down. Stop coming close to violating TOS. Here have a quick review of it:

There is no flaming. Flaming makes for a negative atmosphere and it will not be tolerated. That means you should avoid yelling at and needlessly criticizing other members.

There is no trolling. Trying to force someone into an argument is not allowed.


http://www.classic-castle.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=2547
And of course the link to the TOS.


Attitude adjustment assimilated. I enjoy CC and will refrain from poor posting techniques/style in the future.
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Re: 10193 Medieval Market Village - Official Thread

Postby Coatsy » Mon Jul 13, 2009 2:24 am

I'm actually in the process of building the set. I finally (don't stone me!) got this one from the Discover Mills Lego Store the other day since real life kept me from compleating it the day I had it in my grasp!

I'll say this about the set. It reminds me of the old school sets with the large brick count. The small amount of pre fab (yes there are some pre fab pieces) is a good throw back and.... WOWZERS! the bags are not numbered like they have been for the last 5 or 6 years. That means I totally went back to little kid mode and opened all of the bags and all the pieces are in a pile. Yup I get to sift through them and no I am not seperating them by color or type. This is too much fun!

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Re: 10193 Medieval Market Village - Official Thread

Postby Nicker » Mon Jul 20, 2009 1:12 pm

I got this set a few months ago shortly after it came out. It's a really nice set with a refreshing change with lots of detail. Now if Lego would only come out with a detailed historically accurate castle for collectors that would be awesome! :)
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Re: 10193 Medieval Market Village - Official Thread

Postby Ceedubb of the Bulls » Tue Jul 21, 2009 1:52 am

Coatsy wrote:IThat means I totally went back to little kid mode and opened all of the bags and all the pieces are in a pile. Yup I get to sift through them and no I am not seperating them by color or type. This is too much fun!
Good times!


I did the same thing this weekend. So much better taking up the whole dining table with lego than the sterile numbered bags. And five hours build time on a Sunday (admittedly done at a leisurely pace), couldn't think of something better.
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Awesome set, plenty of fun, plenty to keep you out trouble with your gf. Until she finds the $160AUD receipt. :tasty:
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Re: 10193 Medieval Market Village - Official Thread

Postby dyntar » Sat Jul 25, 2009 12:20 pm

I'd say its the best castle Lego set ever. Not the most action packed set but the knights have to have something to defend.
My favourite part of it is the minifigs especially the woman in black with the dagger.

I tried to buy a second one of these to customise but the shops have sold out.

I also opened all the bags and piled them up on a table to make this.. Took me 6 hours to put it together [ I added a kitten to the pile of lego. not recommended unless you want a real challenge :) ]
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