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Rebuilding Original Sets in Brown

Postby Redav » Sun Oct 31, 2010 7:20 am

I had been wondering lately whether it's possible to build 6054, 6066, 6067, and 6071 and other black vehicles (for example 6030 or 6061) with brown bricks.

I had a bit of a look through Peeron and I'm not sure that all pieces from 6054 are available in old brown (i.e. http://www.peeron.com/inv/parts/2462), is this the colour you would try and use (I'd have thought so)?
I guess it wouldn't matter if there's other colours in there to make up for the unavailable ones?
Would you swap all the black for brown or is there some black that could stay because it may not be wood?
Regarding the brown pieces, what's the best method of getting these? Can you get bulk pieces for bricks, slopes etc or would you have to get specific sets and Bricklink etc the rest?

I know that most people have moved on from building the original sets but part from this example (Forestmen's Hideout Redux), has anyone else tried doing this?
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Re: Rebuilding Original Sets in Brown

Postby Papy.G » Thu Nov 04, 2010 10:30 am

I have already tried to figure out how to rebuild "wooden" sets. I think some parts are meant to be stone in the designer's mind, so the example you show with the forestmen's hideout is nice but not exactly like the original set. The "turret" have to keep gray or stonelike colored. This ads the question of wether a real tree can or cannot carry such a stone-built thing, or if just part of its trunk is a stone fake, or even if it is a full stone building covered over by vegetation. I have already seen vegetation climbing over vertical stone wall, and trees growing off stone turret's top, so the last possibility makes sense to me.
For the camouflaged outpost, the main part has to keep stonelike because it is supposed to be an underground building.
Sometimes, wooden buildings can be painted black, so black just fits nice for these. Look at the "tudor" wall panels, does anybody ever complained about their wood part beeing black?
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Re: Rebuilding Original Sets in Brown

Postby Velliscig » Sun Nov 28, 2010 7:50 am

I must be melanophobic. I have progressively been eradicating my black parts and replacing them with various browns, and currently none of the MOC's I am working on have any black in them, save the lattices and roofing slopes (after some debate over if I should attempt a different, cheaper roofing solution).

TLC never seems to be able to practically color all their bricks, so please, do the work for them aye? Let's face it; how many things in the natural world are black? Trees, stone, spears/axes, even roofing slopes? I think not.
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Re: Rebuilding Original Sets in Brown

Postby Kevin1990 » Sun Nov 28, 2010 9:14 am

I also began with rebuilding the old sets in brown,
But then when I was done I like it beter the classic way :D

here is a picture of the forestmens fortress
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Re: Rebuilding Original Sets in Brown

Postby Shadowviking » Sun Nov 28, 2010 6:46 pm

Black wood, black metal, black stone and black tiles are pretty common. Black Walnut trees, iron, obsidian, slate could all be called black.
LEGO brown, old or reddish, is a much stranger colour for a tree.
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Re: Rebuilding Original Sets in Brown

Postby Redav » Mon Nov 29, 2010 3:05 am

Kevin1990 wrote:I also began with rebuilding the old sets in brown,
But then when I was done I like it beter the classic way :D

I'd suspect that I'd be the same but I'm keen on giving it a go (assuming most of the bricks are available)

Kevin1990 wrote:here is a picture of the forestmens fortress
http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/3424/dsc0264edit.jpg

Thanks for posting. That's a lot more brown than I was thinking. I'd only be swapping the black tree stuff for brown and retaining grey stone and black that wasn't tree.
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Re: Rebuilding Original Sets in Brown

Postby Velliscig » Mon Nov 29, 2010 6:28 am

Shadowviking wrote:Black wood, black metal, black stone and black tiles are pretty common. Black Walnut trees, iron, obsidian, slate could all be called black.
LEGO brown, old or reddish, is a much stranger colour for a tree.


Not the stone cut from quarries to build castles, or at least I haven't seen such a structure in real life or in pictures that could truly be considered black. Perhaps through weathering, they could resemble black, but just as "black" and "white" people aren't actually black or white, there aren't many things in nature that are inherently black. As for browns, numerous natural things are a shade of brown, like dirt and bark... h_ll, even spilt blood turns brown after it dries. :wink:

Nothing against black, really, but IMO, TLC really employs entirely too much black in their sets. Dark brown is definitely an advancement for them though; I cannot wait to see it implemented in more sets in the future.
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Re: Rebuilding Original Sets in Brown

Postby Baron Greenbriar » Tue Nov 30, 2010 12:52 am

Shadowviking wrote:Black wood, black metal, black stone and black tiles are pretty common. Black Walnut trees, iron, obsidian, slate could all be called black.
LEGO brown, old or reddish, is a much stranger colour for a tree.



Are you implying that brown is a strange color for a tree? :lol:

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Re: Rebuilding Original Sets in Brown

Postby Shadowviking » Tue Nov 30, 2010 1:22 am

Velliscig wrote:Not the stone cut from quarries to build castles, or at least I haven't seen such a structure in real life or in pictures that could truly be considered black. Perhaps through weathering, they could resemble black, but just as "black" and "white" people aren't actually black or white, there aren't many things in nature that are inherently black. <snip>

Those were just examples. There are other dark stones that can be quarried. I know I've seen some pics of castles with very dark stone, and the fact is that LEGO colours will always be relatively limited, so selecting colours will always be an issue of approximation.

Baron Greenbriar wrote:Are you implying that brown is a strange color for a tree? :lol:

LEGO brown, yes. If you look at real trees they are generally rather grey, actually.
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Re: Rebuilding Original Sets in Brown

Postby Baron Greenbriar » Tue Nov 30, 2010 1:54 am

Baron Greenbriar wrote:Are you implying that brown is a strange color for a tree? :lol:

LEGO brown, yes. If you look at real trees they are generally rather grey, actually.[/quote]

Hmm I suppose. Now that you mention it real trees are a bit grey. I'm still not sure though. The problem with black and Lego trees is there is only one real shade of black. This can make trees and buildings around them rather confusing. I think dark Lego brown is the best color for the trucks of trees. But that might be just me :?
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