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Re: Castle and Tolkien sets for 2013

Postby Purple Wolf » Tue Oct 01, 2013 3:07 pm

SSchmidt wrote:Not to be picky guys but its two completely different knights :wink:

Of course, one is on the horse, but their headpieces are different. Being the case it would make perfect sense for one to have a title while the other doesn't. And by the way, after putting them both together, they are awesome figs :eyebrows:

That is true but theres not enough of a difference in the figs to really have it make sense to have him called a white knight. Also the other knight probibly dons't have a horse because LEGO was cutting down on horses because there expensive and it makes you want to get the castle more.

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Re: Castle and Tolkien sets for 2013

Postby SSchmidt » Thu Oct 03, 2013 9:33 pm

I think the distinction between "white-knight" and non lies in the horse. There is some application of white knight to what we would deem a "knight in shining armor." I would think TLG decided on the title, simply because this knight comes riding in on a sweet (white, mind you) horse with barding and armor. Not only that, but giving him an exclusive title, and putting him in a larger, more-expensive set may make sense in a marketable way.

For example, kid A and B.
Kid A: I just got this really cool knight in the gatehouse raid and/or Dragon Mountain set!
Kid B: He is cool, but not as cool as MY "white knight" with horse and armor!
Kid A: Oh man, my guy isn't the "white knight?" He's really cool, how do I get him?!
Kid B: He's only found in the King's Castle set.
Kid A: If I want the "white knight" I need to go buy that $100 set! Mom!!!!!!

I think it may make some sense to market a Knight with barding and armor on a horse and give him a distinction (or in this case, a meaningless title). ESPECIALLY if that knight is only found in a $100 set!
While the knight may be the same as me or you, it is not exactly the same and one who is interested in collecting, for example, has to go out and buy an even bigger set to get the exclusive "white-knight."
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Re: Castle and Tolkien sets for 2013

Postby Purple Wolf » Thu Oct 03, 2013 10:06 pm

Thats sounds like a likely posibility young kids usually want the cool figs that come with large sets.

Sandly in my younger years I never got big sets. :(

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Re: Castle and Tolkien sets for 2013

Postby SSchmidt » Thu Oct 03, 2013 10:54 pm

Yeah, and if TLG is targeting younger kids for their sets, I guess it makes sense for them to give a random knight a title (even when there is relatively no difference in him and other knights, as you have pointed out).

Don't feel bad though, I didn't get the big sets in my younger years unless I bought them. My parents didn't really care for LEGO :cry:
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Re: Castle and Tolkien sets for 2013

Postby Aeridian » Fri Oct 04, 2013 1:06 am

SSchmidt wrote:Yeah, and if TLG is targeting younger kids for their sets, I guess it makes sense for them to give a random knight a title (even when there is relatively no difference in him and other knights, as you have pointed out).

Don't feel bad though, I didn't get the big sets in my younger years unless I bought them. My parents didn't really care for LEGO :cry:

Same here, the first $100 set I got was the MMv, other than that I just got the 'cheaper' sets up to the $40-50 range, but I was more into the minifigs than the pieces. I still hardly get the bigger sets, if I need lot of stuff I'll just Bricklink it... and we all know how that turns out. :P
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Re: Castle and Tolkien sets for 2013

Postby Sir Erathor » Tue Oct 08, 2013 5:37 am

SSchmidt wrote:I think the distinction between "white-knight" and non lies in the horse. There is some application of white knight to what we would deem a "knight in shining armor." I would think TLG decided on the title, simply because this knight comes riding in on a sweet (white, mind you) horse with barding and armor. Not only that, but giving him an exclusive title, and putting him in a larger, more-expensive set may make sense in a marketable way.

For example, kid A and B.
Kid A: I just got this really cool knight in the gatehouse raid and/or Dragon Mountain set!
Kid B: He is cool, but not as cool as MY "white knight" with horse and armor!
Kid A: Oh man, my guy isn't the "white knight?" He's really cool, how do I get him?!
Kid B: He's only found in the King's Castle set.
Kid A: If I want the "white knight" I need to go buy that $100 set! Mom!!!!!!

I think it may make some sense to market a Knight with barding and armor on a horse and give him a distinction (or in this case, a meaningless title). ESPECIALLY if that knight is only found in a $100 set!
While the knight may be the same as me or you, it is not exactly the same and one who is interested in collecting, for example, has to go out and buy an even bigger set to get the exclusive "white-knight."


LOL! I'd agree with you there, that's probably why they did it. My brothers would have that conversation ;)
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Re: Castle and Tolkien sets for 2013

Postby mpoh98 » Tue Oct 08, 2013 5:16 pm

Sir Erathor wrote:
SSchmidt wrote:I think the distinction between "white-knight" and non lies in the horse. There is some application of white knight to what we would deem a "knight in shining armor." I would think TLG decided on the title, simply because this knight comes riding in on a sweet (white, mind you) horse with barding and armor. Not only that, but giving him an exclusive title, and putting him in a larger, more-expensive set may make sense in a marketable way.

For example, kid A and B.
Kid A: I just got this really cool knight in the gatehouse raid and/or Dragon Mountain set!
Kid B: He is cool, but not as cool as MY "white knight" with horse and armor!
Kid A: Oh man, my guy isn't the "white knight?" He's really cool, how do I get him?!
Kid B: He's only found in the King's Castle set.
Kid A: If I want the "white knight" I need to go buy that $100 set! Mom!!!!!!

I think it may make some sense to market a Knight with barding and armor on a horse and give him a distinction (or in this case, a meaningless title). ESPECIALLY if that knight is only found in a $100 set!
While the knight may be the same as me or you, it is not exactly the same and one who is interested in collecting, for example, has to go out and buy an even bigger set to get the exclusive "white-knight."


LOL! I'd agree with you there, that's probably why they did it. My brothers would have that conversation ;)


Hahaha, my brothers would look at the set, go woah! Then look at the price, and go, pppthbhth, not worth it. :wink:
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Re: Castle and Tolkien sets for 2013

Postby Aeridian » Tue Oct 08, 2013 6:13 pm

Yeah, the recent castles seem to have too many panels for my liking. I guess it's kinda been that way for a while... Sure the Joust is $20 more, but there's a bunch of more useful pieces and bricks I think. I'd really like to get it, but since it probably won't go on clearance anytime soon, for now it's unlikely.
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Re: Castle and Tolkien sets for 2013

Postby Sir Erathor » Tue Oct 08, 2013 7:06 pm

mpoh98 wrote:Hahaha, my brothers would look at the set, go woah! Then look at the price, and go, pppthbhth, not worth it. :wink:


Lol, mine would discuss a way to buy it together, then would argue about the figs and pieces they would get!
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Re: Castle and Tolkien sets for 2013

Postby Lil_Curt » Wed Oct 09, 2013 2:46 am

Aeridian,

I have 2 joust sets and they are worth it! Pick it up while you still can. I wish i could have gotten a MMV when i fiund them, unfortunitly i'll have to pay a premium if i want one now. I also agree most of the castle sets have to many pannels for my likeing. I do want 1 or 2 more helms deeps though, thanks AK for the first one!

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Re: Castle and Tolkien sets for 2013

Postby SSchmidt » Wed Oct 09, 2013 5:38 pm

The closest LEGO store to me no longer has the Joust set. I have put off buying it for the longest time. It looks really good, and the piece count is great as well. I would imagine when this set retires, it too, will see a big price increase by 3rd party sellers. Now is the time to get it before its gone!
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Re: Castle and Tolkien sets for 2013

Postby Gavin of Lockwood » Sun Oct 13, 2013 1:15 am

I'm liking the rise of brick bricks. I love them, even though I only have 6. :tasty:
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Re: Castle and Tolkien sets for 2013

Postby Aeridian » Sun Oct 13, 2013 1:55 am

Gavin of Lockwood wrote:I'm liking the rise of brick bricks. I love them, even though I only have 6. :tasty:

I know what you mean, I have a few more of those but you can never have too many! They're so useful these days.
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Re: Castle and Tolkien sets for 2013

Postby Lil_Curt » Sun Oct 13, 2013 2:29 am

Brick bricks? Do explaine I live under a rock.
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Re: Castle and Tolkien sets for 2013

Postby Aeridian » Sun Oct 13, 2013 2:37 am

The new(ish) modified bricks, also know as profile or masonry bricks. They've been in several of the LotR/Hobbit and Castle sets in the last couple years. I'd link you to a picture, but Bricklink's being funky.
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