Formendacil wrote:Very funny, Rogue!
Thank you sir! I was aiming for some sort of bittersweet humor with this thread.
Formendacil wrote:However, Mr. Castle is alive and well, and will be alive for many years to come. He will, undoubtedly, suffer the effects of his illnesses for many years, and will likely never recover the vigour of his childhood and youth.
After building 3739 Blacksmith Shop, I came to the conclusion that TLC should have offered Daniel Siskund a job. The problem with TLC is not old age, it is bad blood, and they need to bleed it out and get some new blood.
Formendacil wrote:I think that you, and all the KK2-haters, are over-reacting in comparing KK2 with sets from 15 years ago. Golden Ages can't be returned to overnight.
Oh, but they can return overnight! That is the saddest thing. The problem is that the company hires these marketing people and focus groups who tell the designers to build stupid (stuff) and so they do. TLC is making the same flaw most other good things eventually make. They try to appeal beyond their audience.
Let's say TLC takes the most awesome castle set you can think of and brings it to one of their focus groups. Let's say 30% of the kids absolutely love it, and 70% are indifferent or do not like it. Now TLC takes a piece of Knight's Kingdom crap to the same focus group. 45% of the people "like it". The marketing people will recommend the set that 45% of the kids liked. The problem is that nobody will love it like those 30% would have loved the other castle set.
TLC's designers can make good castle sets if they want to. I believe that they truly can do this. Unfortunately, that is no longer the company's goal. Perhaps the round of firings they did earlier this year has changed that. We should see the effects in the next year or two.
Formendacil wrote:You've got to compare KK2 to it's contemporaries (HP, World City, etc). It doesn't fare quite so bad against them. Or, compare it to the most recent Castle line, KK1.
I disagree. Just because KK2 looks okay compared to all of the other crap on the shelf does not make KK2 any better. However, 3739 is a fairly current LEGO Castle set. Compared to it, all of KK1 and KK2 are trash. There, I compared them to one of their contemporaries.
Formendacil wrote:The problem is that you're comparing to themes long gone.
The problem is that the new sets can't compare to themes long gone.
Formendacil wrote:You should also not give up hope. The newer KK2 sets are better than the first batch, and are a start at addressing our concerns.
Oh, I haven't given up hope. I have hope that some future medieval LEGO product line may end up being decent. However, I wouldn't say that TLC has "addressed our concerns" just because they released two sets that are better than all the rest. TLC does not listen to us, and those two sets coming out when they did was probably a coincidence.
Formendacil wrote:Also known as the Janjo, Rascus, Santis, and Vlakeh Syndromes.
No, those aren't syndromes, they're all just different strains of the same virus.
Ah, now that I'm back in character, let's see who's next:
Emperor James wrote:I don't think castle has died, as long as we are its' fans.
No, I'm afraid it's dead. We're a lot like those Elvis fans who dress up like Elvis and want to believe he's alive, but deep inside they all know the truth. Instead of paying homage by dressing like Elvis, we all pay homage by building castles that don't suck. Why not? It's fun.
Jojo wrote:In 1992 I was mesmerised by the Dungeon Master's Castle 6086. It kept my buying LEGO although I was already older than the "12 years" that those sets were designed for
Aye, 1992 was the last year where I saw LEGO sets that made me stare at the catalog for hours at a time. In 1993, that Magical Workshop looked nice, but that was clearly the best set in the entire product line. None of the other sets appealed to me at all.
Today's castle sets appeal to us for one reason and one reason only: parts and/or minifigs. Maybe they should just sell us parts packs and minifig packs and spare us the awful set designs. Let us build stuff with the parts, because TLC is acting like they don't know how to use them.
Thanks for the replies everybody. I'm glad most of you seem to be enjoying my post.