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New Article: Advanced Tudor Style Techniques

Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 5:05 am
by Glencaer
Basically instructions on how to do James Brink's 5 wide window, and a medieval version of Didier Enjary's Train Design Concepts.

Article

-Lenny

Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 5:15 am
by porschecm2
Ooh, most informative. Thanks!

Cm2

Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 4:22 pm
by ottoatm
NICE!

I've been trying to figure out the best way to do these for some time now, but never took the time to just ask...! Many thanks!

Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 5:10 pm
by Robin Hood
Hey, this looks very interesting.

I have been wanting to build a tudor style building for awhile. This might just be what I need to get going.

Both the ideas are very inventive. I like how it looks. Espically the slanted one.

Dan :wink:

Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 6:07 pm
by bannear
Lenny,
Very nice article and interesting information. I am thinkng that you could combine Didier Enjary's slopes with James Brink's 5 wide window if you make the top (window section of the building overhang the lower portion - like is seen in many older tudor style buldings.
I will try and present an example in the next few days - I'll see if I can get started when I get home - time to pull my bricks out of the closet.
Thanks for the inspiration!
SirBert

Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 11:07 pm
by Glencaer
Oh, I'm sure the two styles can be combined. I kept them seperate to make it a bit easier for people to follow, but any number of different techniques can be used together.

I'd love to see what you come up with.

Thanks for the kind remarks to everyone else.

-Lenny

Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 12:40 am
by eNiGMa
mmm, tutor instructions... *drool in homerish manner*.... Finally, I'm free from the terrible depths of boringwallism! I'm excited about this.

Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 11:21 am
by rogue27
So...

Do those crossbeams stay in place if the wall is accidentally tipped forward?

Just curious.

Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 4:11 pm
by Jacob C.
Do those crossbeams stay in place if the wall is accidentally tipped forward?
Hmm?....the tile pieces look like they could easily fall or be pushed out of place.

Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 5:27 pm
by Glencaer
rogue27 wrote:So...

Do those crossbeams stay in place if the wall is accidentally tipped forward?

Just curious.
I mentioned that you need some trickery to make them 'stable,' and that I leave such trickery for you guys to figure out.

Possible solutions could be - for the 5 wide window, just place something on the inside of the wall - like a mirror or something. It is a big photo but if you look here You can see how I placed a standing mirror pressed against the wall that holds the tile in place.

For the cross beam, it gets a bit more tricky. You could replace the 1x4 tile with two 2x2 tiles, connected by a 1x4 plate. The plate would be on the side of the wall and would keep the tiles from falling out. If you then put something against the plate, like a bed or a desk or something, it would keep the tile from 'falling in.'

But these are only two possibilities - I bet people could figure out a bunch more!

-Lenny

Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 5:50 pm
by Norro
Thanks for sharing these... I saw the train technique on Lugnet but missed the 5 wide window until now....

God Bless,

Nathan

Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 6:49 pm
by Lord Mikal
THANK YOU to the tenth power! I spent veritable hours trying to figure out how to do this in an easy, non-parts intensive way, and you present the exact solution we were all looking for! :D :D :D
Jacob C. wrote:
rouge27 wrote:Do those crossbeams stay in place if the wall is accidentally tipped forward?
Hmm?....the tile pieces look like they could easily fall or be pushed out of place.
Easy solution: Rubber cement. Apply it to only one piece, and when you take apart the creation it'll peel right off the plastic without a trace.

Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 11:36 pm
by LEGOFREAK
ok, so a few weeks ago I thought "I wonder how I could get a cross beam into these tudor walls?" and spent about a day trying different things, including using the slopes you showed. I came to the conclusion that it couldnt be done. :roll:
Boy am I glad to be proven wrong. :D

now I just have to find the slopes I need!

thanks Lenny for finding these and bringing them to our attention.

Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 5:01 pm
by LusiferSam
I had been thinking about trying to do a Tudor style house with cross beams for a few months now. And that was going to be my plan of attack for the cross beams. But someone beat me to the punch, as I never even got a round to building. At least I know the technique will work and looks good.

Maybe now we'll see some real Tudor style house. Personally I've never seen a Tudor style house without cross beams. That's not to say past works haven't looked great, but they just have not looked right.

Posted: Wed May 25, 2005 12:07 am
by jb
Hey Lenny,
Nice article and thanks for mentioning the five-wide window :)

The instructions show the original method of 5-wide windows, but I tried some other ideas. I like this method better for its symmetry, it's just a little harder to deal with the roof:

http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=747172

Here are some of the other techniques I have used to hold the plates in...

http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=747183

http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=666292

jb