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Old Miller Gustav's Post Mill

Postby SavaTheAggie » Tue Jan 27, 2004 5:07 am

I've finished my Windmill MOC. This MOC is designed after the classic medieval windmill style called a 'Post Mill.'

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Here it is:

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The whole gallery is HERE.

Here's a shot of Miller Gustav and his Post Mill.
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And here's a shot of Miller Gustav rotating the Post Mill. The entire mill is moved on it's base in order to stay facing the wind. The wheat field in which the windmill sits near has been cleared so that the anchor can be moved freely.
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This shot shows off how the veins of the rotor are angled to catch the wind. It also shows off that the entire rotor is angled downward, thus making the veins look like they're not uniformly angled.
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Here is a shot of the inside of the mill. Miller Gustav has already handed over the mill to his son, Lenny, but he can't help but meddle.
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And finally another shot of the interior showing much more detail. Here you can see the gears that turn the mill stone, and the shoot where the grain drops into awaiting bags.
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There ya go!

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Postby Troy T. Moore » Tue Jan 27, 2004 11:21 am

Gustav, the Scandanavian miller.... Very neat, a feasible addition to my own village.
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Very nice

Postby LEGO_KNIGHT » Tue Jan 27, 2004 1:14 pm

Very nice. :)
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Postby Mr. D » Tue Jan 27, 2004 4:02 pm

Great! One thing, though. How did you attach the rotors on a slant and still be able to run a technice rod to the inside?

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Postby architect » Tue Jan 27, 2004 5:03 pm

Hi Anthony,

This is a great moc! :D It is nice to see a new type of structure. Many details are nice. The wheat is impressive too :wink: Finally, I love the main picture. It reminds me of some fields in Europe that I saw. Great job!

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Postby Bricksidge » Tue Jan 27, 2004 5:12 pm

Great job, very historically accurate, from what I can tell. Nice details. It must have been hard to get all the gears to work, great job on that as well.

Yay! Anthony can do more than just create stickers ; )
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Postby Bruce N H » Tue Jan 27, 2004 7:26 pm

Hey,

Great work. I like the shot where you pasted in a sky background, especially (or did you photograph that outside?). Looking at the interior shot, the contrast between gray gears and tan walls is very obvious, so I humbly take back my previous statements. :oops:

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Postby SavaTheAggie » Tue Jan 27, 2004 10:41 pm

Alrighty, I've edited my mill a bit, and I've also disected it too, so I have some pictures to answer some questions.

Oh, and Bruce: My mom had a large piece of cloud print cardboard, works well as a background, doesn't it? (You can acutally see fold marks in the sky in the pic because of what the cloud cardboard was originally used for).

So here we go:

To make my mill more historically accurate, I exchanged the ladder entrance to the mill with a stair way. The stairs rotate with the roundhouse, and clear the wheat field fine. The stairs clear the baseplate by one plate, so spinning the mill makes the stairs scrape the baseplate studs a bit, but that's ok. But it is more accurate. I mean, would you rather carry a large sack of processed grain (which is heavier than equal volume of stalks) down a ladder or a stairway?
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This next picture is a close up shot of the post mill's base, and the large vertical beam, or post, from which the mill gets its name. The turntable and the four angled rods are not actually attached to the post (cause the rods get in the way) but instead rest on the post and it's round tile top.
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This picture is a disected view of the gears and millstone of the mill. I would have liked to use more 'realistic' and toothy gears, but the gears I used were out of necessity rather than anything else. I dont know if this is anywhere close to being accurate to the way it really was (most probably not), but I needed the millstone to be as close to the front of the mill as possble, thus the 'overshooting' driving gear off the rotor.
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Finally here is an exploded shot of the bricks that hold the rotor and it's shaft at an angle. Using these hinge joints, I mimiced the steep slope bricks I used for the roof, offsetting the stack one stud backward. While the studs don't quite meet the same height as a normal brick, it does stick up enough to 'lock' in place with the plate that sits on top of the roof.
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Once again, the entire gallery can be found HERE.

I plan to mail this off to PDX, since I won't be able to attend. As much of a thrill and a draw I'm sure this will be :roll:, those attending will still be able to see it.

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Postby Jojo » Wed Jan 28, 2004 12:10 am

Hi Anthony!


That's a very nice mill! I like how it fits the CCC size but still has that level of detail and functions.
And I too like the pic with the cloudy background.


SavaTheAggie wrote:This picture is a disected view of the gears and millstone of the mill. I would have liked to use more 'realistic' and toothy gears

Hehe, to make it very realistic looking you should have used brown gears for in mills all cogwheels have been wood, always. (Yes, I know brown gears don't exist. There are some tan gears though.) Your solution is very good.


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Postby footsteps » Wed Jan 28, 2004 12:18 am

SavaTheAggie wrote:Once again, the entire gallery can be found HERE

Bookmarked! Don't ever move it, please :wink:

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Postby jb » Wed Jan 28, 2004 1:03 am

Hi Anthony,
Great creation. I really like your solution to get the rotor at an angle and the internal gearing. Now I want to go and build a post mill of my own :)

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Postby SavaTheAggie » Wed Jan 28, 2004 9:22 am

jb wrote:Hi Anthony,
Great creation. I really like your solution to get the rotor at an angle and the internal gearing. Now I want to go and build a post mill of my own :)

James


I don't know if I like the sound of that ;) You might end up making my mill look downright pathetic... :P

Oh well, any MOC can be improved, right? Besides, what do they say? Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery :D

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Postby Mr. D » Wed Jan 28, 2004 1:03 pm

Thanks for the two pics of the gear assembly. Great idea!

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Postby moom » Sat Jan 31, 2004 9:40 pm

Looks pretty good, Anthony. Good idea to use the boat ladders. Here is some constructive critisim, which you can hopefully use to improove the design:

Such a large window, like the one you have made, was never on the sides of a post mill (all products would blow away in the draft) Such a window is usally present only at the back close to the roof. Directly above this window is a winch under a small overhanging roof, for hauling up bags of grain. You can see an example on this URL:
http://www.molendatabase.nl/nederland/molen_e.php?nummer=186

At both sides there are only 2 or 3 small round portholes, allowing the miller to keep an watchfull eye on wheather conditions or warning signs from nabouring mills. For a clear example see this URL:
http://www.molendatabase.nl/nederland/molen_e.php?nummer=227

These portholes could be closed off with a thin wooden board agains the inside (simply rotating round a nail, similar to a covering plate for a keyhole) The round holes in thechnic bricks have the right scale to model such portholes.

On the last picture, you can also see that the front wall extents a bit downwards forming a kind of skirt. This is to protect the pivot mechanism from rain blowing in, and every post mill has such a skirt in one or another form. In my opinion it will make your model much more realistic and visualy interesting if you would find a way to add this feature to your model.

Here are some links to english language versions of wind- and watermill databases, these contain great reference pictures:

http://www.molendatabase.nl/nederland/index_e.html
http://www.molendatabase.com/duitsland/index.php?taal=engels&theme=
http://www.molendatabase.nl/scandinavie/index.php?taal=engels

With friendly greetings, M. Moolhuysen.
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