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A wine rack I made today

Postby SavaTheAggie » Wed Feb 11, 2004 4:31 am

As I continue to plan how I will build my next castle, as my parts are currently used in other things, I began to think of the Castle's Keep.

Now, every castle has got to have a place to eat, and of course my next castle being a royal castle, my thoughts turned to a wine cellar.

So I did some searching around Lugnet and Bricklink, and came up empty handed. All of the wine storage areas I found were just large holes for barrels. But I wanted a wine rack. I mean, this is a royal castle! They need the really good stuff, the stuff that only comes in small bottles and in very limited quantities.

So I went about making my own wine rack. Here's what I came up with:

http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/savatheaggie/Misc/winerack/winerack1.jpg

And here's how I did it:

http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/savatheaggie/Misc/winerack/winerack2.jpg

Some notes:

The wine rack itself does not hang inside it's nook. Instead, two 1x2 slopes and two 1x2 inverted slopes pin it in place. Otherwise it just slides into place from above and sits nice and snug.

I wanted to do the rack in brown, but I don't have any free, so I went for the more 'natural' wood look with my spare tan which up till now has gone relatively unused (a problem I am taking care of :) )

I had thought of using nothing but 1x1s to create the construction, which would give me a larger capacity for wine bottles, but I wanted that cross beam look that real wine racks have. I could have used crossed plates, but once the wine bottles were in you wouldn't be able to tell what you used anyway.

I suppose there's another way to make the cross beams smaller using a different form of SNOT, but this was the easiest and least parts intensive for me.

So, be brutally honest, whaddya think?

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Postby Devari » Wed Feb 11, 2004 5:08 am

Nice... How exactly do you make it stand on it's side? Is it firmly in place?
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Postby Teh Stud » Wed Feb 11, 2004 5:13 am

I'm most impressed with the idea of building a wine rack! That's quite creative! Now why didn't you make it out of brown bricks? :wink:
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Postby Jojo » Wed Feb 11, 2004 1:14 pm

Hello!


That's what a wine rack looks like! Nice.
However, the wine cellar needs some huge barrels, too. :-)


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Postby Mr. D » Wed Feb 11, 2004 2:28 pm

Nice! One thing that struck me on seeing this, though, is how large the slats are compared to the bottles. I' not sure how you would use SNOT, but my wheels are turning....

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Postby Jedipawn » Wed Feb 11, 2004 6:45 pm

creativity makes the world go around. I do like this... it started me thinking. Build it into a wall, use 1 x 1 round with cones on top for the bottle to make them a little bigger. Or even odd colored heads for the really big wine jugs. I think that I actualy like the tan better then brown. wine cellers are usualy dark underground places, the tan will lighten it up a bit for photographing.

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Postby SavaTheAggie » Thu Feb 12, 2004 12:50 am

Devari wrote:Nice... How exactly do you make it stand on it's side? Is it firmly in place?


Thanks. Two slopes and two inverted slopes hold in place inside a 2 stud deep slot betwen the front and back walls of the nook. It's pretty solid, too. It rattles only a little bit when I shake it, it moves maybe... 2 mm or less in any direction.

Redaxe wrote:I'm most impressed with the idea of building a wine rack! That's quite creative! Now why didn't you make it out of brown bricks? :wink:


Thanks much. As I said in my post, I'm out of unused brown.

Jojo wrote:Hello!


That's what a wine rack looks like! Nice.
However, the wine cellar needs some huge barrels, too. :-)


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So true, Jojo. And I plan to have barrels in my new castle. Two matching nooks, one filled with barrels, the other this wine rack. I think it'll look pretty cool.

Mr. D wrote:Nice! One thing that struck me on seeing this, though, is how large the slats are compared to the bottles. I' not sure how you would use SNOT, but my wheels are turning....

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Thanks! A few ideas are being tossed around on Lugnet on the topic, you might want to see if anything gives you inspiration there.

http://news.lugnet.com/castle/?n=19226

Jedipawn wrote:creativity makes the world go around. I do like this... it started me thinking. Build it into a wall, use 1 x 1 round with cones on top for the bottle to make them a little bigger. Or even odd colored heads for the really big wine jugs. I think that I actualy like the tan better then brown. wine cellers are usualy dark underground places, the tan will lighten it up a bit for photographing.

Very nice Anthoney
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Thanks, though I'm a bit confused. I have it inside a wall, in what way were you thinking of to put it inside a wall? I originally had cylinders under the cones, but I felt it was a little too tall, so I settled for a cone on top of a 1x1 round plate.

I'll admit that the tan's really growing on me. I think it's a keeper, at least for the moment :)

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Postby Barbapple » Thu Feb 12, 2004 2:14 am

woah.....I mean woah.....defenitly the most creative thing i've seen in awhile. This is very very nice. How did you come up with the idea?
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Postby moom » Thu Feb 12, 2004 4:37 pm

I realy like this idea, and it got me thinking. I started to wonder if one could make a rack that doesn't use beams such massive in appearence (Come on, the're as thick as a minifig leg)

My first (futile) attempt was this:

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But that looked more like a buisness fair display stand from the 60's than a midieval wine rack. ¹)

Then, it dawned to me that the diagonal distance between adjacent studs is v2 x 20 Ldu = 28.2843 Ldu. That happens to be just over 1 stud wide + 1 plate high, perfect for a wine rack made of tiles with brick-wide gaps in between. I've made a MLCad mockup:

Image

Ofcourse, this just shows the principle, and white and red color are for distinction only. Size is at your own whim, and a frame hiding the edges and keeping the long tiles in place are amongst the things you have to work out for yourself.

This *.ldr file illustrates best how the principle works:

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Postby footsteps » Mon Feb 16, 2004 2:39 am

moom wrote:Then, it dawned to me that the diagonal distance between adjacent studs is v2 x 20 Ldu = 28.2843 Ldu. That happens to be just over 1 stud wide + 1 plate high, perfect for a wine rack made of tiles with brick-wide gaps in between. I've made a MLCad mockup:

Image

Ofcourse, this just shows the principle, and white and red color are for distinction only.

Can you re-do the image with more colours? I'm looking at it, but I just can't get a handle on what pieces you're using and how it all goes together. It looks great, I just can't figure it out.

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Postby moom » Mon Feb 16, 2004 5:22 pm

footsteps wrote:Can you re-do the image with more colours? I'm looking at it, but I just can't get a handle on what pieces you're using and how it all goes together. It looks great, I just can't figure it out.

I intended the *.ldr file included with my posting as a study object for those interested. But I'm a forgiving person, so here is a "trimmed" picture showing individual elements of the construction principle.

Note that I have multiple subassemblies consisting of a Plate 1x1, a Brick 1x1 with Headlight (turned 45º) and a Tile 1x2 (fixed on the side-stud of the Brick 1x1 with Headlight) This subassembly is placed in an alternating pattern on a plate (dimensions as you choose). In the gaps left between the Tiles 1x2 one can place Tiles 1x4, 1x6 and 1x8 where required (not drawn in this picture):

Image

As said before, some details are not worked out. Size is at your own whim, and a frame hiding the edges and keeping the long tiles in place (at back and front) are amongst the things you have to work out for yourself.

With friendly greetings, M. Moolhuysen.
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Postby footsteps » Mon Feb 16, 2004 7:23 pm

I intended the *.ldr file included with my posting as a study object for those interested.

Unfortunately the .ldr file looks like fancy binary to me so it didn't clear things up.
Thanks for the extra detail. It makes much more sense now. And based on what you've created, that's given me some ideas to explore along similar lines.
The one possible 'weakness' of your design is that the stud on top of the 1x1 headlight brick cannot be used to secure the bottle in place. I'm thinking that the 1x1 w/4 studs on sides may also work.
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Postby moom » Mon Feb 16, 2004 11:23 pm

footsteps wrote:Unfortunately the .ldr file looks like fancy binary to me so it didn't clear things up.

Are you not familiar with http://www.ldraw.org/ then? This site hosts software for drawing LEGO on your computer, and if you load the mentioned *.ldr file into one of the available viewing programs, it reads like a buiding instruction. I've also used it to generate the assembly pictures I've posted in this tread.
The one possible 'weakness' of your design is that the stud on top of the 1x1 headlight brick cannot be used to secure the bottle in place. I'm thinking that the 1x1 w/4 studs on sides may also work.

That is indeed one of the weaker points, I was aware of this disadvantage.

I don't think that the alternative brick you mentioned is simply possible without consideration. Starting from the principle that I prefere to face all Tiles 1x2 with their smooth top surface in the same direction (all upwards), I can't use Bricks 1x1 with 5 Studs, because placed in the alternating grid the side studs of the adjacent bricks would almost meat each other, and there would be no room left for the Tile 1x2 to attach. A (non existend) brick 1x1 with one top stud and one side stud, and without identions, would be ideal for the job :-)

For some more exploration of your alternative (a case of parallel evolution), see also the develloping discussion tread on Lugnet: http://news.lugnet.com/castle/?n=19289

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Postby jtherlow » Tue Feb 17, 2004 3:22 am

moom wrote:
footsteps wrote:Can you re-do the image with more colours? I'm looking at it, but I just can't get a handle on what pieces you're using and how it all goes together. It looks great, I just can't figure it out.

I intended the *.ldr file included with my posting as a study object for those interested. But I'm a forgiving person, so here is a "trimmed" picture showing individual elements of the construction principle.

Note that I have multiple subassemblies consisting of a Plate 1x1, a Brick 1x1 with Headlight (turned 45º) and a Tile 1x2 (fixed on the side-stud of the Brick 1x1 with Headlight) This subassembly is placed in an alternating pattern on a plate (dimensions as you choose). In the gaps left between the Tiles 1x2 one can place Tiles 1x4, 1x6 and 1x8 where required (not drawn in this picture):

Image

As said before, some details are not worked out. Size is at your own whim, and a frame hiding the edges and keeping the long tiles in place (at back and front) are amongst the things you have to work out for yourself.

With friendly greetings, M. Moolhuysen.

You could also use the 1 x 1 corner panels from the first picture, only add more, so it would look the way the second picture does.
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Postby moom » Tue Feb 17, 2004 10:42 pm

jtherlow wrote:You could also use the 1 x 1 corner panels from the first picture, only add more, so it would look the way the second picture does.

For lazy readers, you mean this part: Image
You're right, but it would introduce gaps between the shelves, and what I hoped to achieve with my priciple idea was the absence of clearly visable gaps.

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