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Re: The White Tower

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 5:37 am
by chadzicz
architect wrote: my new corbel technique under the crenelations (without using jumper plates).
this is what drew my attention - very nice feature. First i thought you used jumpers, but the spacing between each step is very small, so 7 tiles 2x2 laid on each other perhaps? really curious how you've done it. also the oldgray/white scheme with contrasting flag works for me.

btw i envy you the old gray double convex slopes, i could defintely use them in my keep. (only have 1 now from rock island refuge i recently bought on ebay).

PS: and i love the Jurassic Park scene from that folder - do you happen to have more pics?

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 7:46 am
by Ristridin
That technic is just so cool, and I`m glad to hear someone else is going to studie achitecture :lol: .

Michiel

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 9:43 am
by Tanotrooper
1 word: perfect

TT

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 11:43 am
by architect
The plainness of the beach and tower is nicely done, it feels slightly lonely and foggy, like it'd be up north someplace, like Norway, or the Orkney Islands
I was just trying to add a bit of variety to our castle world. Using new colors and techniques (like Steve Decreamers different colors for depths covered with trans clear plates) really add alot to the ocean mocs.
Recluce wrote:Having seen this in person I can say it is WAY cool. I love this new design technique with the panels, just sad I don't have a pic of the tower. I don't know how I missed it... perhaps it wasn't out when I was looking around? I'll ask around and see if I can find one for ya.
Thanks Emily. I know that a few people other than Carl took photos so there should be more. Of course I might just have to rebuild it for the third time ;)
True. I'm not saying your MOC isn't good, in fact, it's awesome, I'm just a little iffy on the flag, though the flag is cool, too, and should definately be used on another MOC. Your White Tower just seems like a UCS type dealy, with a bunch of awesome details and no figs. I didn't really convey that very well in my first post.
I think you have a point about the flag. My tower really needs to be a bit taller and have the windows spread out more. The flag is too large for the building unless the king is residing there.
First i thought you used jumpers, but the spacing between each step is very small, so 7 tiles 2x2 laid on each other perhaps? really curious how you've done it. also the oldgray/white scheme with contrasting flag works for me.

btw i envy you the old gray double convex slopes, i could defintely use them in my keep. (only have 1 now from rock island refuge i recently bought on ebay).
Tonight after work I hope to post my presentation on how I created the tower. Those 2x2x3 old light grey corner slopes were a very expensive order from Germany last year. Unfortunately they are even more expensive now. LEGO should really put those into a set for us. I like how they define the corners in both directions and are a bit longer than the other supports. The snot is quite simple for those.

Ben

P.S. I didn't make the Jurassic Park but it is a very cool moc. Good luck to everyone going into architecture. It is a noble profession, just do not expect to make a fortune from it.

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 9:35 pm
by kelderic
architect wrote:Those 2x2x3 old light grey corner slopes were a very expensive order from Germany last year. Unfortunately they are even more expensive now.
Those aren't even listed on the Bricklink catalog. I looked, and all it came up with is 45 degree angled ones. On Peeron, it says that the piece is not in the Rock Island Refuge. Do you know which set your's came from?

Kelderic

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 9:55 pm
by brody
Those aren't even listed on the Bricklink catalog. I looked, and all it came up with is 45 degree angled ones. On Peeron, it says that the piece is not in the Rock Island Refuge. Do you know which set your's came from?
I'm pretty sure he used these pieces, and inverted them with SNOT.

Great little MOC, with many cool techniques. Can't wait to read your article!

Cheers,
Brody

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 12:18 am
by Lonan
I like the little details in this piece. The slight variations of the windows, and the staggering under the battlements. Also the little touches like the crabs on the beach. Nice location, by the way. Most of the seaside towers and castles I've seen have been set on cliffs. It's good to see some variety. Well done.

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 2:28 am
by architect
I just converted my BrickFest Wall Offsets presentation into html. Check out the article here to see how the tower was constructed: http://www.classic-castle.com/howto/art ... fsets.html
Those aren't even listed on the Bricklink catalog. I looked, and all it came up with is 45 degree angled ones. On Peeron, it says that the piece is not in the Rock Island Refuge. Do you know which set your's came from?
I believe they came from a German LEGOLAND Theme Park Pick a Brick. They are hard to get because only one came out the RIR (which is a very cool set that my brother had).
I'm pretty sure he used these pieces, and inverted them with SNOT.
Great little MOC, with many cool techniques. Can't wait to read your article!


Those are the slopes I used. They are attached to 2x2 corner plates with 1x2 tiles on the corner plates. This allows you to have one brick stick inside the tower to lock it into place.

Ben

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 2:45 am
by Old_School_Fan
An absolutely beautiful MOC. You can just see it standing on the shore with 'Let Your Light Shine' by Blind Willie Johnson playing in the background along with the sound of the waves. Very peaceful! 8)

I also read your article related to it. Genius! I can't wait to use those techniques on my own MOCs.

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 3:59 am
by Shurtugal
Aw, man! I knew the corbels involved those pieces! I just couldn't figure out how the heck how!

P.S. Great presentation, very inovative. I never thought of that 6 to 5 ratio idea. Definitely helpful!

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 4:28 am
by smcginnis
That's a great idea, and a great article, architect. It's strange, because that six-five ratio also works for bricks, i.e., six studs high is five bricks high.

~smcginnis

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 12:04 pm
by architect
Old_School_Fan wrote:An absolutely beautiful MOC...
I also read your article related to it. Genius! I can't wait to use those techniques on my own MOCs.
Thank you. I am hoping that fellow fans will try this and create their own architectural details.
Aw, man! I knew the corbels involved those pieces! I just couldn't figure out how the heck how!
Do not feel bad. Very few people knew how I did it before I gave away the secret.
That's a great idea, and a great article, architect. It's strange, because that six-five ratio also works for bricks, i.e., six studs high is five bricks high.
Thanks. You are correct about the ratio often used for snot. Fortunately for us, LEGO's more recent elements are designed in that ratio. Earlier 1x4 fence panels have a back wall that is 2 units thick.

Ben

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 12:39 pm
by Slobey
Excelent Moc Ben. Excelent tenchnique for the corbeling and thanks for sharing it with us in the 'how-to' article, that would have taken some time to make.

Keep it up, this is inspiration like this that keeps me coming back to this site :)

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 1:32 pm
by chadzicz
veeery clever, a long way to go for me to get there....

thx for sharing the technique with us

chad

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 3:20 pm
by Recluce
Pepa Quin took another (different angle) shot of your white tower, and it has the figs on it. I like it more in this shot for showing the ocean, though I think a bit more wave like action could have been built.

http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=1993686