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Pole Turner's Shop V2(see post near bottom)

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 5:44 am
by porschecm2
I guess I'll introduce myself along with my MOC. I'm Chris-some of you may know me from other sites. Anyway, this is my first Tudor style building, and actually, my first completed castle MOC in a long time. I realize it has alot of problems; most blatantly being the large blue sections on each side, but alas, I used every last black 1x1 brick. I tried to make the lathe mechanism at least halfway accurate, but since when the building opens there would be a piece of the mechanism on each side, I had to not entirely connect it. Comments and constructive criticism welcome and wanted. Please let me know how I can make this better and more accurate. Thanks. :)

<EDIT> I haven't had time to make any structural changes, but I did get some better photographs of what I do have.

The Gallery when public:

http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=74638

And a few deeplinks:

http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/porsc ... to0203.jpg

http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/porsc ... to0210.jpg

http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/porsc ... to0226.jpg

http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/porsc ... to0238.jpg

http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/porsc ... to0233.jpg

http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/porsc ... to0243.jpg

http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/porsc ... to0239.jpg

Cm2

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 6:20 am
by architect
Hi Chris,

Welcome to Classic-Castle!

I like several portions of your pole turners house. The old yellow windows in the second floor wall projections are nice. Interior details, as far as I can see them, are good. The thin bed, real brick stairs, lathes, wall lamps, curved table and tool racks are done well.

I would suggest stocking up on 1x1 black bricks - they are very affordable and you can never have enough. I do not like the all black first floor walls as much though. Having it all timber frame or stone would be nice - Plus then your wooden fireplaces will not burn down :wink:

Anyway, please accept my constructive criticism. This is a nice moc :)

Ben E.
Sets Admin

Re: Pole Turner's Shop

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 2:23 pm
by footsteps
Welcome. And well done. That's a nice looking building. You've got a lot of nice detail inside.

Two changes to suggest for presentation: 1) use a flash on your camera so that we can see the inside details better. I'm sure I'm missing some neat things when I'm looking at interiors; 2) have more shots from "ground level", especially on the outside.

But again, aside from those quibbles, you've done a good job.

Alan

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 2:47 pm
by porschecm2
achitect: Thanks. As soon as I get some more money, I plan on making a B-link order, and 1x1's will definately be on the list. As to the floor, thanks, I hadn't thought about that, and it's easily enough changed to grey, or perhaps even brown. I will have to rework it a bit to change the colour, because the main reason it's black is that the floor plates are part of the wall, unlike the 2nd story grey ones. But I suppose I can fix that in the same way. Thanks.

Footsteps: Hmm...I'll have to play around to get better lighting in there. If I back away far enough to use a flash, then the details can't be seen anyway, and if I come in to where they are visible, using a flash just whites everything. I have been using a powerful lamp placed right behind the camera, but I am by no means a photographer, so I don't really know what I am doing all that well. And outside shots are easily done. I'll play around this afternoon and see what I can come up with. Thanks. :)

Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2004 12:54 am
by footsteps
The extra photos are great at giving more interior detail. Thanks. I'm impressed that you managed to hinge it without splitting the fireplace. Well done. Lots of nice detail -- I like the quarter-round plate table. I haven't seen that before.

Build on!

Alan

V2

Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2004 11:26 pm
by porschecm2
This is Version 2(and 2.1). I corrected many of the problems that were pointed out to me and a few others I noticed. But again, because of lack of parts, I wasn't able to build it the way I wanted to. Some of the main things I changed were the second story floor, which was black, to grey, and the pillars(beams?) which also were black, to grey, and I extended them up further, and respaced some of them. Also changed the stairs from black to brown. Version 2.1 has the grey pillars extended up even further, and the roof design changed. I'm not entirely sure I like the roof better that way though. It closes nearly all the gaps, but doesn't look as good, IMO. I also added a cart. The hitching design is not original to me, and I'd give credit to whomever came up with it, but I don't know their name. Overall I don't like the grey pillars as well as black, and the new roof design. But the stairs and grey floor are much better.

The Gallery:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=74845

And a few deeplinks:
http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/porsc ... to0270.jpg

http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/porsc ... to0271.jpg

http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/porsc ... to0279.jpg

http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/porsc ... to0289.jpg

And Version 2.1:
http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/porsc ... to0294.jpg

As always, comments and constructive criticism wanted and welcome.

Cm2

Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2004 11:58 pm
by Bruce N H
Hey,

I like this version--it seems much more open and airy with the lighter floor color. The cart is nice too.
Interesting stairs. Why did you make them upside down? Was it a lack of inverse slopes in brown or did you want to avoid studs on top of the steps?

Bruce

Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2004 12:10 am
by porschecm2
I don't own even one 1x2 inverted 45 slope in brown. And i have the regular ones coming out my ears. So, ya...lack of inverted slopes. :wink:

Cm2

Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2004 2:14 am
by footsteps
Kudos on the stairs. Necessity is the mother of invention. Are the stairs attached, or do they just kinda sit there?

And I agree that the inside does look much airier. I still like the details too. The poll-turner looks like he's had one of those days. It's nice to know that minifigs aren't always so happy -- all that smiling can really grate after a while. :wink:

Alan

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2004 12:16 am
by porschecm2
The stairs are attached by 2 black 1x2 plates with 2 prongs clipped to 2 inverted black 1x2 plates with 3 prongs.

Cm2