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Postby Lord Nev » Fri Jan 27, 2006 6:51 pm

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For all of you well read peoples who have read Ivanhoe post here.

I'll begin:
Ivanhoe is the very first historical fiction EVER! The prolouge consists of a letter to the Reverend Dryasdust. Scott tells how society has made history dull and dry as dust.
Anyhoo, it's a great story of knights and the like. My favorite character is Wamba. O man! he is so funny. Scott does a very good job of making Wamba a fool, but not in the mental sense. Itseems Wamba did more thinking than all of the characters combine. I also like the Black Knight. He is very cool at being black.
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Re: Ivanhoe

Postby Glencaer » Fri Jan 27, 2006 7:24 pm

Lord Nev wrote:Ivanhoe is the very first historical fiction EVER!


Really? Cuz I thought it was written in the middle ages, well after the Epic of Gilgamesh from 22nd century BC in Mesopotamia, or the Greek plays of the 3rd and 4th centuries BC. Hmm, maybe I am wrong about something here.

According to Wikipedia, the first historical novel was in 1814 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_fiction

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Re: Ivanhoe

Postby Sir Kohran » Fri Jan 27, 2006 10:31 pm

Glencaer wrote:
Lord Nev wrote:Ivanhoe is the very first historical fiction EVER!


Really? Cuz I thought it was written in the middle ages, well after the Epic of Gilgamesh from 22nd century BC in Mesopotamia, or the Greek plays of the 3rd and 4th centuries BC. Hmm, maybe I am wrong about something here.

According to Wikipedia, the first historical novel was in 1814 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_fiction

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Also, isn't Beowulf the first historical (I use that term loosely - there is Grendel, after all, though the rest of the story is set in a real time and place and culture) fiction?

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Re: Ivanhoe

Postby E of Alshire » Fri Jan 27, 2006 11:06 pm

Glencaer wrote:Hmm, maybe I am wrong about something here.


Nope, you're right on the money. I've found that English teachers and Profs are usually less knowledgeable about such things than ametuer enthusiasts. :D

And no, I haven't read Ivanhoe, but shouldn't this forum be about LEGO Castls stories? :wink:
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Re: Ivanhoe

Postby rogue27 » Sat Jan 28, 2006 2:37 pm

E of Alshire wrote:And no, I haven't read Ivanhoe, but shouldn't this forum be about LEGO Castls stories? :wink:
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As a mod who is sometimes unsure of himself, I wondered the same thing. Ooh... there's so many "mod only" buttons I want to press right now! :twisted: However, Glencaer posting in this thread as if it was completely normal made me rethink that.


So... Ivanhoe. I have it. I want to read it sometime soon. It comes highly recommended by George RR Martin (my favorite author, who writes some historically detailed fantasy). I hear it has a very good account of a medieval tournament.
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Re: Ivanhoe

Postby ottoatm » Sat Jan 28, 2006 3:30 pm

rogue27 wrote:As a mod who is sometimes unsure of himself, I wondered the same thing. Ooh... there's so many "mod only" buttons I want to press right now! :twisted: However, Glencaer posting in this thread as if it was completely normal made me rethink that.


Heh heh heh... the same thing happened with me.

I've heard of Ivanhoe since I was a "wee lad", but I have almost forgotten what it was about. I can only remember the basics. Not a bad idea in mentioning it, this would be a good read, although the old english can be a bit of a challenge.

Here is an online version of it: http://www.online-literature.com/walter_scott/ivanhoe/
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Re: Ivanhoe

Postby Lord Nev » Thu Feb 02, 2006 12:07 am

rogue27 wrote: I hear it has a very good account of a medieval tournament.


Oh, yeah!!!!!
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Postby Kirby » Thu Feb 02, 2006 4:44 am

omg i read that book! its HUGE and cool! i also read beowulf its cool. and the writing doesnt confuzzle me like some people :lol:
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Postby TwoTonic Knight » Thu Feb 02, 2006 5:47 am

In case anyone is wondering, the author is Sir Walter Scott (in case you want to actually find it somewhere).

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Postby Lord Nev » Wed Feb 15, 2006 10:08 pm

Oooh! Old! :shock:
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