Luke the Swift~ wrote:Mercat makes some good points. I think that we as Roawians are at a critical point. We must! Make changes for the better! Who knows what could happen next time. If we are to slip up again. We could end up with something worse than what happened this time.
Lord Mercat wrote:Furthermore, we can now look at the Lenfel-Loreesi war. What was the cause of this? Petty insults. So, because of a misunderstanding and a few poorly chosen words, Loreos invaded Lenfald. The result? Thousands of lives. For what? Because your lords felt miffed at some pithy remark? Really? Is that a good reason to throw away the lives of thousands of blindly loyal citizens of your country? Poor form. The leaders of the factions aren't fit to sit on the thrones they inhabit as they clearly don't give one lick about the people they govern. You can say what you want, but actions speak far more loudly than words in this regard.
Mattiusxavier wrote:Actually the Lenfel-Loreesi war was not started over insults. It was started over Lenfald claiming that the Prince of Loreos had the King of Roawia killed over the Magic Isle incident which the King decreed to his Lords of the three lands to invade. It wasn't the idea of the Lords themselves, they only obeyed the lawful King of all three realms. Furthermore...the leaders of Loreos didn't just invade over the insult of being called "King Slayers", they invaded over other factors that had to do with economics, unjust years of suffering and other elements. When I state unjust years of suffering I mean those who were punished for living on the side Lenfald received when the King created official borders. The persecution of those who should have been able to live free noble lives under the banner of Loreos was the melting point. Further the death of other Nobles members and families caused by Lenfel assassins didn't help either. The war happened for all those reasons and then to top it off... the leader of Lenfald Lord Triphian kidnapped Mark of Falworth to stay the hand of vengeful Loreesi blades who were on his doorstep with an army. The war was bound to happen...but the causes were pretty clear. However, with all the leaders and that war over. There is no reason to hold any grudges over what transpired since both sides achieved something and lost something in return. The clear result though is that the war itself may have been a set up by the Queen from the beginning who as you pointed out was seeking vengeance upon a King and his Lords who led an invasion of a land where she was hiding in exile.
Ahhh... Revisionist history at its best! MattiusX is quite the spin-doctor, eh?Mattiusxavier wrote:Actually the Lenfel-Loreesi war was not started over insults. It was started over Lenfald claiming that the Prince of Loreos had the King of Roawia killed... *snip*
Lord Mercat wrote: Her current plan, as I have detailed above, simply isn't well thought out enough to indicate this high a level of setup.
DrakkVonLego wrote:Lord Mercat wrote: Her current plan, as I have detailed above, simply isn't well thought out enough to indicate this high a level of setup.
Keep in mind this is only true if her plan is to just control the realms through her armies and hostages. I for one believe that this is merely a distraction or perhaps phase 1, and her true master plan has far bigger loftier goals.
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