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Re: Did Flickr change, or did I mess up my settings?

Postby Buurli » Thu May 23, 2013 5:09 am

I also don't like the new design, but on the other side we have unlimited photos, so we finally can upload more detail pics (also good for stories, etc.) without having to pay for a pro account :).
And with the time, we all get used to this design...
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Re: Did Flickr change, or did I mess up my settings?

Postby peggyjdb » Thu May 23, 2013 7:55 am

Anyone looking into ipernity as an alternative?
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Re: Did Flickr change, or did I mess up my settings?

Postby Bluesecrets » Thu May 23, 2013 9:48 am

Anyone looking into ipernity as an alternative?


I paid for pro for two years last August, so I am staying there until that is up...and hoping they listen to the people who are saying things and make some changes. Plus I have over 800 photos there that I just would find to be a pain in the neck to transfer. So no...I'm not moving..for now.
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Re: Did Flickr change, or did I mess up my settings?

Postby Eklund » Thu May 23, 2013 12:11 pm

I made an ipernity account, but only intend to use it as a backup if things really take a turn for the worse on flickr. For now, flickr is okay for me, not ideal, but not bad enough to where I feel the need to switch websites.
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Re: Did Flickr change, or did I mess up my settings?

Postby Bruce N H » Thu May 23, 2013 4:46 pm

Hey, here's a long rambling post I just left in the comment stream over on the Brothers-Brick:

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Hey, here are a bunch of random, unconnected thoughts:

As to community survival, back in the day, everyone posted their photos on Brickshelf, chatted on Lugnet, and attended BrickFest (not really, not even in the US, especially not in other places, but that was the conventional wisdom). Then, as other options appeared, people kept saying how much those options would destroy the community. But they didn't. I was an early member, and later an admin, at Classic-Castle, one of the sites that was part of the migration away from Lugnet, and statistics showed that a few months later there were many more castle-related posts on Classic-Castle than there had been in a similar time period the year before on Lugnet.castle. While I've not done the research, I think it is obvious that the same sort of analysis could be done on convention attendance, or photos posted, or whatever. Is it fragmented? Yes, undoubtedly - if there are five major AFOL conventions, you are less likely to see all of the same people at a given venue than if there were only one or two major cons. But you'll see other people. If I only have five friends, we can all meet in a booth at McDonalds. If I have a hundred friends, they will necessarily be 'fragmented', in that I'll see them at different places, and this friend may not know that friend, but I'd say it's ultimately healthier. As the AFOL community moves into different forums/photo sites/conventions, I suspect it will continue to thrive.

That said, I do hope that people don't quickly fly off to a myriad of sites. I'd hate to miss the cool MOCs. Also, Flickr has become a central site for many contests and other community activity. Some segments of the community are living largely on Flickr now. So a quick flight would hurt those things in the short run.

On monetization, first, we probably should have seen this coming. I'm a non-pro user (i.e. a freeloader), and at Christmas they 'gave' me, and presumably all free users, a 3-month pro account. Then I got lots of messages on how I should subscribe as a pro to continue the benefits. To me this says they just weren't getting enough subscribers, and were out to drum up more. So the days of Flickr continuing to exist based on a subscription model were probably numbered, regardless. If them moving to an ad model helps them survive, it doesn't really bother me too much. If you're going to leave Flickr because they are making money off of you, you're also going to have to stop using Google or any other search engine, cancel your free e-mail account, stop watching TV or listening to the radio, etc. You should also stop reading the Brothers-Brick, which has an ad over there.

On a LEGO-specific site, they do exist (Brickshelf, MOCpages, YouBrick, MOCshow, BrickBuildr, ReBrick). As of now these each have their limitations. Also, I always thought that one of the benefits of largely migrating away from Brickshelf and MOCpages (aside from the potential cancellation of the former and the slow server speed of the latter) was that it took us away from being a completely insular community - both to promote the LEGO hobby to others and to find those other lone wolf LEGO builders out there who weren't tapped in to the AFOL community.

On the change itself, I see three aspects of the 'new Flickr' - the impact on Pro users, the look of the home page, and look of the page when you view an individual photo. I can certainly understand why people might be irked if they paid for a Pro account, and if Flickr doesn't offer some sort of prorated refund you should be mad. As a freeloader I can't say what the impact is if they take away your stats and other tools. Heck, I run eight LEGO-themed blogs, and I'm sure I look at those stats at least once or twice a year. If they took away my stat tools I might even notice it. Okay, maybe I'm being overly sarcastic, but perhaps some Pro users might help educate the rest of us on the importance of the stats tools. On the look of the front page, I completely agree that it looks awful, though I'm not sure I'll be jumping ship any time soon over this. They did pretty much the same thing to the Groups photo pages about six months ago, and I don't remember hearing any complaints. On the look of the page when you view an individual photo, my biggest complaint is the black background. I hope they listen to all of the rants/feedback and at least they give us an option to choose a black or white background. Until then it will mean an extra click for me to get to 'view all sizes' to see photos they way I want to. I'm not sure what the shouting is about to 'click to view 20 more comments'. I sit in front of a computer for much of the day, and I spend my day clicking. A few more isn't really noticeable.

So, in the end, I hope people don't all run away, but on the other hand I'm not too worried for the community in the long run. I think some of the changes are nice (especially from the perspective of a freeloader rather than a Pro user), but whatever consultant told Flickr that the new layout looks better must be half blind (we need Mirsky to come out of retirement and slap them up side the head). I also think that everyone involved in Flickr's PR department for this changeover needs to start looking for a new career. But we'll live. Take a deep breath and ... OHMYGOD! THEY MOVED THE TAGS TO A DIFFERENT PORTION OF THE PAGE! OFF WITH THEIR ... um, sorry, move along, nothing to see here.
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Re: Did Flickr change, or did I mess up my settings?

Postby friskywhiskers » Fri May 24, 2013 4:30 pm

Well I have noticed one thing since the new flickr came around. Views on My Material and photo stream plummeted from hundreds a day to around 2. I guess that is because everyone is buys complaining, and getting used to the layout, but for someone who enjoys getting feedback and suggestions, it is pretty annoying.
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Re: Did Flickr change, or did I mess up my settings?

Postby soccerkid6 » Fri May 24, 2013 6:09 pm

@friskywhiskers: How can you tell how many views you get a day?

With the new Flickr I haven't been able to find a place that shows the total number of views on your stream. Did they do away with that? If not some direction on where to find it would be helpful :)
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Re: Did Flickr change, or did I mess up my settings?

Postby friskywhiskers » Sun May 26, 2013 3:00 am

soccerkid6 wrote:@friskywhiskers: How can you tell how many views you get a day?

With the new Flickr I haven't been able to find a place that shows the total number of views on your stream. Did they do away with that? If not some direction on where to find it would be helpful :)


stats, I have pro. And yeah the only way you can tell photo stream views now is from stats :(.
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Re: Did Flickr change, or did I mess up my settings?

Postby peggyjdb » Sun May 26, 2013 7:59 pm

Thanks for the info friskywhiskers

It total sucks all this.

Oh well, stats aren't that important...
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Re: Did Flickr change, or did I mess up my settings?

Postby Eklund » Sun May 26, 2013 11:06 pm

For Chrome users, there is a new add-on to change the new black background on flickr back to white. To do this, first install this. Then install this. I was very pleased to see this, it gets rid of one of the most annoying new things.
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Re: Did Flickr change, or did I mess up my settings?

Postby Bruce N H » Mon May 27, 2013 1:51 pm

Cool. Thanks, Eklund. I thought it didn't work at first, but I just had to shut down and restart. Happy to have my white back.

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Re: Did Flickr change, or did I mess up my settings?

Postby friskywhiskers » Wed May 29, 2013 2:00 am

meh in the white background style. With all the info on the bottom as opposed to on the side of the picture, the white now kinda swallows up images. I'm sticking with black, I am already kinda used to the new flickr. Right now the only thing peeving me is that my collections are not viewable. does anyone know anything about this?
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Re: Did Flickr change, or did I mess up my settings?

Postby RichardAM » Thu Jun 06, 2013 1:02 pm

I know it's all moans/groans in here for the most part, but would I be worthwhile actually returning to Flickr?

I havent been there in years, and despite all the ranting, a lot of the community are still there too. Unless there's some mystical place where everyone else is hiding and uploading photos? I kinda want to get back into photography as well- it's just hard to get an actual answer from some of these replies about whether the site is still worth being a part of or not :/
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Re: Did Flickr change, or did I mess up my settings?

Postby andhe » Thu Jun 06, 2013 2:09 pm

^ I'd say a large part of the community operates exclusively on flickr, or at least spends a lot of there time communicating there.

I think it is (or at least was, until we get the hang of the new version) a lot easier to comment on peoples MOCs, and make notes and suggestions on the actual pictures than it is to do on a forum.

I think forums will always have their place for theme specific banter, and non-photo orientated lego chat. But I don't think anything can beat it for ease of browsing MOCs (rather than having to read every thread on a page) and interaction.

I'm sure we will all get used to the updates, and I've already found a few links to make things look as I want. There does seem to have been a reaction against it, and subsequent lull in activity, but I'd hazard a guess this will all pick up again. And you get a terabyte of space!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1.
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Re: Did Flickr change, or did I mess up my settings?

Postby Luke the Swift~ » Tue Jun 18, 2013 7:39 pm

I'm having troulb getting pics from FLickr to here on the cc its says the dimension of the photo could not be determined got any suggestions
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