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Arrow Slit: "Final" Variation and Summary

Postby footsteps » Sat Mar 06, 2004 9:25 pm

Well, it's been almost a whole day since someone last posted something about arrow slit windows. :wink:

For me it's been a long road of envisioning, building, editing, rebuilding, etc and I'd like to thank you all for your input, comments, and especially for all the other building techniques that have been shared.

Here's my "final" variation on my technique of using 1x2 panels in SNOT:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=73553
The pics that begin with either "black", "blue", or "red" highlight the core pieces necessary, which appear as the light grey parts in each picture.
"Red" shows a 2x6 footprint with an open top, suitable for the top of battlements.
"Blue" shows a 2x6 footprint with a closed top, suitable for a wall.
"Black" shows a 1x6 footprint with a closed top.

The core pieces are:
(2) 1x1 brick w/side stud
(2) 1x1 plate (regular or round)
(2) 1x2 plate
(2) 1x2 panel
plus either (1) 1x2 plate OR (1) 1x2 tile OR (2) 1x2 tile OR (1) 1x4 tile
also shown are (4) 1x1 bricks to represent the minimum front coverage needed to cover the gaps caused by building in SNOT.

With these core pieces, the walls to be built around them use standard brick dimensions (i.e. you do not need to use more plates to get all the pieces to line up).

Examples, using the "Red" configuration:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=683159
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=683163

So, I think I'm about done as far as developing is concerned.


And now for a summary:
Trolling through the MOC forum I've found the following links to various arrow slit window creations. I think it would be an excellent idea if someone were to take these and create a link page for easy reference to anyone who's thinking of adding arrow slits to their MOCs. The variety of techniques used means that just about anyone could find appropriate parts in their collection to tackle at least one style.

SNOT with slopes:
Dave O'Hare
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=66491

Lord of the Lego
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=74360

Jason Catena
http://www.jcatena.net/lego/tech/archer_loop/index.shtml

James Brink
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=74397

jtherlow
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=74396

denix
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=74378

2x3 wedge bricks:
Anthony Sava
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=73066

SNOT other:
Alan Findlay
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=73553

RandomLynch (this is really a work of art, IMO)
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=11437

Other:
Daniel Siskind
http://www.brickmania.com/Gallery2/castle/vlad5.jpg
http://www.brickmania.com/gallery/SBCastle8.jpg
http://www.brickmania.com/gallery/SBCastle1.jpg
The cross-shaped windows seen in these pics are great. I don't know the technique used, but I wanted to include them for your pleasure.

If I've missed any links, please include them in any links page. I realize that my search was not necessarily comprehensive, so if I missed yours it was not intentional.

Okay, that's enough from me.

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Postby Devari » Sat Mar 06, 2004 9:32 pm

Fantastic! I've been folowing this whole thing with interest, but haven't had the time to reply until now.

The one thing that bothered me about the other designs was the somewhat wide arrows slot. This shrinks space that an incoming arrow could travel through, and thus looks better IMHO.

The only thing I want to see now is the thin arrow slot with the more sloped shooting area... :)
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Re: Arrow Slit: "Final" Variation and Summary

Postby catena » Sun Mar 07, 2004 7:44 am

footsteps wrote:Trolling through the MOC forum I've found the following links to various arrow slit window creations. I think it would be an excellent idea if someone were to take these and create a link page for easy reference to anyone who's thinking of adding arrow slits to their MOCs. The variety of techniques used means that just about anyone could find appropriate parts in their collection to tackle at least one style.

Alan


I've verified that these links are in the entry for archer loop on my LEGO Castle Tech page. However, I have mostly linked to Classic-castle discussions instead of BrickShelf directories. Also, I haven't included Dan's cross-slits: they're neat, but there's no discussion of his style or even a close-enough picture to be able to determine exactly how he built them. I'd be happy to include his slits if we find out more detail about them.
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Postby jtherlow » Sun Mar 07, 2004 2:12 pm

Beautiful! But hold on, as soon as I find my camera I'll be photographing my LAST arrow slit design. :wink:
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Re: Arrow Slit: "Final" Variation and Summary

Postby footsteps » Sun Mar 07, 2004 4:26 pm

catena wrote:I've verified that these links are in the entry for archer loop on my LEGO Castle Tech page. However, I have mostly linked to Classic-castle discussions instead of BrickShelf directories. Also, I haven't included Dan's cross-slits: they're neat, but there's no discussion of his style or even a close-enough picture to be able to determine exactly how he built them. I'd be happy to include his slits if we find out more detail about them.

Thanks for your work on this, Jason. I was thinking you'd be the one to have this stuff organized and linked.

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Postby Mr. D » Mon Mar 08, 2004 3:55 pm

Very good. Thanks for the summery.

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Postby Shoes » Wed Oct 17, 2007 12:56 am

Clever! Ill have to try this out. it looks like it would be hard to incorporate it into buildings so if anyone has advice im open to it.
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Postby Pallando the Blue » Wed Oct 17, 2007 5:55 am

It was clever. Three years ago :wink: .
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Postby Sir Nelson » Wed Oct 17, 2007 7:19 am

Pallando the Blue wrote:It was clever. Three years ago :wink: .
Indeed. There should be some sort of "Dwarf Miner" award or something for digging up the oldest thread. :wink:

As far as arrow slits go, Alan's work and summary is good... even by today's 'standards'.
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Postby LORD DOOM » Wed Oct 17, 2007 7:38 am

I really appreciated this thread because it taught me some cool concepts. I remember when I first joined CC skimming through threads looking for arrow slit technique. Now it's all right here in one complete package with some new examples I'd never seen before. Thanks Footsteps, you rule.
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Postby Blue Monarch » Thu Oct 18, 2007 12:45 am

Interesting. A lot of thought has been put into this and I think the results are worth it. I wouldn't do it myself, but can readily appreciate the detail you have done. Bravo.
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Postby footsteps » Thu Oct 18, 2007 1:41 am

Sir Nelson wrote:
Pallando the Blue wrote:It was clever. Three years ago :wink: .
Indeed. There should be some sort of "Dwarf Miner" award or something for digging up the oldest thread. :wink:

As far as arrow slits go, Alan's work and summary is good... even by today's 'standards'.
This is the funniest thread resurrection I've seen for a while. Too bad some of the links are broken.

To see my arrow slits in current use, go here. Nice work, if I do say so myself. :wink:

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Re: Arrow Slit: "Final" Variation and Summary

Postby nackanator » Sat Feb 09, 2013 7:54 pm

I'm sure this has been done but havent seen it posted after looking throug various arrow slits: a 1x4 flat with the two middle pegs missing allows for chees wedges. it's not as smooth since the bottoms of the wedges are cut like tile pieces. i left an intentional gap to get the clasic cross slit, but can easily be done with out it going a bit taller with two 1x2 wedges stacked.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/93034758@N07/8456422421/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/93034758@N07/8456422343/in/photostream/

to get the smooth front using those L pieces it took 3 tile spaces in a row as the base to get the whole slit one brick deep, but didnt like ithe spacing as much. Also the tiles just made it not smoot in a dfferent place.
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Re: Arrow Slit: "Final" Variation and Summary

Postby Justin M » Sat Feb 09, 2013 10:05 pm

nackanator wrote:I'm sure this has been done but havent seen it posted after looking throug various arrow slits: a 1x4 flat with the two middle pegs missing allows for chees wedges. it's not as smooth since the bottoms of the wedges are cut like tile pieces. i left an intentional gap to get the clasic cross slit, but can easily be done with out it going a bit taller with two 1x2 wedges stacked.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/93034758@N07/8456422421/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/93034758@N07/8456422343/in/photostream/

to get the smooth front using those L pieces it took 3 tile spaces in a row as the base to get the whole slit one brick deep, but didnt like ithe spacing as much. Also the tiles just made it not smoot in a dfferent place.


I have actually never seen someone use this before so you may be the first. It's quite an interesting technique.
Though I must ask, what's with the knight riding the ostrich in the background of the pictures for? :tasty:
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Re: Arrow Slit: "Final" Variation and Summary

Postby nackanator » Mon Feb 11, 2013 6:54 am

Intimidation factor!
Aso, it's probably like the knuckle ball of jousting; horses are just too predictable.
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