Some friendly advice and stats on purchasing Lego.

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Some friendly advice and stats on purchasing Lego.

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In another thread I was asked how to purchase whole cases of lego brick and I thought I would start this thread for people to give advice on how best to buy bulk brick. So please add your own expertise to this thread.

Miniflea84 asked:
How do you buy a whole box of stuff from the lego store? Do you just have to ask what they've got in the back?
Note my only experience with lego stores is in Chicago (my hometown has 3) and DC so far. I do believe most stores operate similarly. If you ask the staff about availability you can purchase a case of lego pieces. A case goes for a flat rate of $70.00 in the USA. They can get it from the storeroom. Typically there is more brick and different choices in the back on the shelves than is available up front on the pick a brick wall. So it is always best to ask every time you visit the store. Often the staff will let you browse the pieces in the storeroom. After all they want to sell them. They usually tape a piece on the outside of the cases so you can tell what is inside. Make friends with the staff. They can be extremely helpful and save you a lot of money if you plan on building up a large collection.

A case of brick is equivalent to about 5 1/2 to 6 1/2 of the large pic a brick cups depending on the type of piece. I have noted that the larger the bricks the more cups worth you get in a case. This is because large pieces do not pack well into the cups and pack much better in larger containers like the case size box and also the large pick a brick boxes. (yes they have these too but you usually have to ask about them)

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The large pick a brick box holds about 11 of the large cups and costs $150.00.

The large plastic cup costs $14.95

The lego stamp card can save you up to 7.5% on your purchases. Double that this October with double stamp month. :D

A large pick a brick cup holds approximately packed tightly but not putting the bricks together. Followed by cost per brick with no discount.
105 2x4 bricks $0.142
220 2x4 bricks $0.068
220 1x4 bricks $0.068
490 1x2 bricks $0.031
1050 1x1 bricks $0.014

A case holds approximately followed by price per brick without discount:
660 2x4 bricks $0.106
1350 2x2 bricks $0.052
1350 1x4 bricks $0.052
2800 1x2 bricks $0.025
5600 1x1 bricks $0.013

In my experience the best cost is obtained by buying the case of brick. I have to purchase huge amounts of grey brick for castles this way. I do note that some colors of brick are cheaper on bricklink but when shipping is factored it usually falls in line with buying direct from lego stores. I always buy with coupons and a discount card at the local lego store and save even more.

The pick a brick box and cups does have the advantage of letting you buy in bulk but get a variety of bricks that the store has available. The large 150.00 pick a brick box is the next best buy especially if you are buying larger pieces. The large cup is also a good value for needed parts but is best as the pieces get smaller or if you don't need a large number of parts. (Also if you don't have the coin to spare) :wink: I have absolutely no experience with the small cup as I do buy in bulk but it is even less cost efficient.

It is obvious to most but a great technique is to put a cup of larger pieces in the large box and follow that with a cup of small ones. Shake to fill in all of the empty space and repeat. I have been able to get one of these large boxes packed so full it made no noise when shaken. This also works on a small scale with the cups.

The biggest shortcoming of lego stores is the small selection of pieces. If you need a certain piece in a certain color you may not find it there. They do carry quite a bit of the brick I need in bulk and I try to be patient. The parts available turns over slowly. You have to continue to visit often. Obviously it pays to live near a lego store or to know the staff so they can give you a heads up on pieces.

The place where the pick a brick really pays off is in plates, tiles, and small modified parts. These parts tend to be rare and difficult to buy in large quantities on bricklink. If you find a piece you can use in bulk with these hard to find pieces get crazy... in the long run you end up saving money.

I use bricklink often for hard to find colors and parts. The shipping costs can be problemsome so I try to buy as much at one time as I can. Unfortunately if you are looking for thousands of pieces you often have to order from several stores, thus increasing overall cost. Shop well and beware of the shipping cost.

I hardly ever buy individual parts from lego S@H. Brick there tends to be very expensive. However, for figs and accessories it can be very good. The cost of shipping from Europe can be inhibitive if you are not ordering a large amount.

My experience with ebay is limited. I have purchased some sets here as it is easy to tell what you are getting. I have had bad luck buying brick in bulk. I have got a few good deals buying certain color bricks in lots by weight, but often end up with a lot of pieces that are not useful to me and often the pieces are faded or dirty. If someone has had better luck with e-bay than me, I would like them to describe their techniques.

I often buy lego sets for brick as well. Especially if I can get them on clearance. Creator sets have the most brick for the dollar at regular retail price. Lastly I do collect figures for armies so I purchase sets for the figures and often get a lot of brick as a bonus. This makes calculating cost very difficult as figures have their own values that need to be done individually.
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Thanks, this is really helpful.
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So cases are only $70 then? I heard they were $100.

And you say they still have PAB tubs but have to ask for them? They used to be $100, but now are $150?
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Well I wouldn't call it a tub as it is a carboard box. It's dimensions are a little bigger than 8" cubed. It holds a bit over 11 large cups of pieces. Since it is the price of 10 you get a bit of a volume discount.
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Now you're confusing me. Are we talking about cases or PAB tubs? I thought they stopped selling tubs.

When you said case, it was my understanding that you were talking about the cardboard boxes full of pieces. Or does case refer to something else??
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This is some very useful info. Thanks DaleDVM.

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Sorry about the confusion peppermint pig. You are right the plastic tubs are gone for now.

When you go to a picka brick wall there are a few ways you can buy the pieces. You can get the traditional plastic cups. But they also sell the parts by the case (if they have a full case left) and in a large pick a brick box.

Both are boxes. One is called a case and is how lego ships the pieces to the stores. It is a box full of one individual type of piece. Like a case of clear 1x2's I picked up a week ago. That case held about 6 large plastic pick a brick cups of pieces and it cost $70.00. If you need a lot of a single piece this is the way to go as it has the best price per piece I've been able to find at lego stores.

There is also a large pick a brick box. I imagine this is similar to the old tubs. This box holds about 11 large pick a brick cups worth of pieces. Most people don't know about these boxes because you have to ask the staff to get you one. I guess your average lego store visitor doesn't buy that much brick. Only us crazies right? :lol: The cost for one of these boxes is $150.00. So if you are buying a large amount of pick a brick pieces this is better than filling a bunch of the cups.

I hope I explained it more clearly. Forgive me I assume too much when talking to other Lego fans.
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DaleDVM wrote:Double that this October with double stamp month.
Really? I wasn't aware of that... Does that go for all stores through this week?

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All of the Lego stores that I know of. You should call your closest one. That can add up to 15% off.
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Morgan19 wrote:
DaleDVM wrote:Double that this October with double stamp month.
Really? I wasn't aware of that... Does that go for all stores through this week?
I made a purchase from the Bellevue, WA store on October 11 and received double stamps.
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This is some great info. I have always looked at the PaB wall and asked for grey 1x2s. I am in the process of building up my new light grey collection, and I've always bemoaned my lack of old light grey 1x2s (I collected that color cheifly before my AFOL days) and I'd like to score specific pieces in the manners which you describe. But I suppose we are relagated to what selection they have. I wonder if I could persuade my local manager (with whom I am on a first name basis) to order pieces I want?

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The Blue Knight wrote: This may be the basis for an article to be accessed through the front page. Thank you for this in-depth analysis and explanation
That's a great idea.

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DaleDVM wrote: Make friends with the staff. They can be extremely helpful and save you a lot of money if you plan on building up a large collection.
To add to this idea, the added benefit of making friends with your local staff is their interest in what you're doing. While you can't ask for parts to be ordered directly, they CAN look out for pieces you might need. Not a guarantee (and certainly don't ask), but it never hurts to discuss your current project and piece needs.

On the same idea, if they've got something in limited quanities in the back you need, they'll probably let you know. But only if they know it's what you're looking for. :)
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I second (or third?) the suggestion to get friendly with the staff. At my local store they're all great, and at least a couple of them are AFOLs, so they understand the need for parts, and they're even more likely to keep an eye out for useful parts for you. You might make a new AFOL friend too. ;)

I've asked about requesting specific parts, and they told me they can and do put in requests for certain parts, but to no avail... Lego seems to send them whatever they feel like. Probably best to be patient and if something useful shows up, grab it.

I wonder whether the $150 box is available everywhere... I assume those are the same boxes that were available at Brickworld? The last time I was at my store a couple weeks ago I didn't see any sign of either those or the green tubs. But I didn't bother asking about them either... maybe they do have them in the back but only if you know to ask.
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Thank you for answering my questions. I've only been to a Lego Store once, because it's several hours of driving away in another state, and it was back when green tubs were still sold (made an insane profit/value by packing that tub XD ). It's sad to hear that's not the reality now.

So the $70 is a better deal than the $150? Great. :)

How has the Build-a-Minifig part selection been??
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