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Postby CVfan13 » Mon Nov 03, 2008 9:35 pm

Are we not allowed to submit entries yet, or something? When I clicked the "submit entry" link on the main page, it came up with a 404 error.
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Postby Voran_the_Scholar » Mon Nov 03, 2008 9:38 pm

Okay. Minifig scale question answered, tapestry question answered. One more question:

Could the same moc be entered in more than one category? For instance, if I make a big castle and enter it in the castle category, could I convert it into a siege scene and enter it in the castle siege category?

Also, do we need to keep our mocs assembled until the contest is over (I thought I read that somewhere...)

Okay, so that's two questions. :oops:

Thanks in advance.

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EDIT: One more question: How can the miscellaneous category be strictly fair. How can say a large diorama scene be judged on an equal level as say a brick built creature or minifig vehicle? It just seems too broad a category for successful evaluation.
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Postby Garbageman13 » Mon Nov 03, 2008 9:46 pm

Hey, can I team-up with a friend to build my entiries? Nowhere in the rules did I read(or notice) that you had to be alone. If it's not allowed, I probably missed it..

Also, do we need to keep our mocs assembled until the contest is over (I thought I read that somewhere...)

Thanks in advance.

God bless.

Probably not, since some people may not have enough bricks to do that if they want to enter seperate catagories.. Not sure though..
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Postby architect » Tue Nov 04, 2008 12:37 am

shmails wrote:I have a question about the tapestry:

Does it have to be completely flat 2D, or can it have some depth.

Thanks in advance


The tapestry should be completely flat and 2D.

While we were on the subject of custom figs, what if my decals don't turn out super well, since I don't have a great printer? Will I get points off or something of that sort?


Quality of craftsmanship is taken into consideration for custom figures. So if your print quality is terrible, it could negatively impact your grade.

Can you tell a story with the 3 pictures? Not like a cartoon: just one scene, but with 'moving' figs?


You can do this for the Crime and Punishment and Miscellaneous categories.

CVfan13 wrote:Are we not allowed to submit entries yet, or something? When I clicked the "submit entry" link on the main page, it came up with a 404 error.


Please read the first post in this thread or the main page article for an answer to your question.

Voran wrote:Could the same moc be entered in more than one category? For instance, if I make a big castle and enter it in the castle category, could I convert it into a siege scene and enter it in the castle siege category?


Yes, if the "big castle" fits in the smaller size limits required by the siege category. Alternately, you could use part of your larger castle in another category if it falls within the 64x32 stud size limits.

Also, do we need to keep our mocs assembled until the contest is over (I thought I read that somewhere...)


No. But make sure your entry meets the categories requirements. If you build a creation too large for a category and then dismantle it, we may have to move it to the misc. category.

One more question: How can the miscellaneous category be strictly fair. How can say a large diorama scene be judged on an equal level as say a brick built creature or minifig vehicle? It just seems too broad a category for successful evaluation.


The miscellaneous category is a catch-all for creations which do not fit within other categories. Each year someone builds a creation so outstanding that they obviously win this category. This category should be your least priority in competing for the master builder prize.

Garbageman wrote:Hey, can I team-up with a friend to build my entiries? Nowhere in the rules did I read(or notice) that you had to be alone. If it's not allowed, I probably missed it..


We have allowed this in the past and had one winning team. If you win you must share the prize. In addition, the entry would count as one of your two entries in the category for each of you.

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Postby CVfan13 » Tue Nov 04, 2008 1:02 am

architect wrote:
CVfan13 wrote:Are we not allowed to submit entries yet, or something? When I clicked the "submit entry" link on the main page, it came up with a 404 error.


Please read the first post in this thread or the main page article for an answer to your question.


Ah-ha, sorry about that, I'll be sure to be more observant in the future. :oops:
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Postby Garbageman13 » Tue Nov 04, 2008 1:08 am

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While we were on the subject of custom figs, what if my decals don't turn out super well, since I don't have a great printer? Will I get points off or something of that sort?


Quality of craftsmanship is taken into consideration for custom figures. So if your print quality is terrible, it could negatively impact your grade.

Well that stinks.. I thought being creative with a small amount of bricks is good. But being creative with a not so great printer is bad?

Well, I'll do my best..

Thanks for taking the time to answer all these questions! :D
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Postby Bruce N H » Tue Nov 04, 2008 4:32 am

Voran_the_Scholar wrote:EDIT: One more question: How can the miscellaneous category be strictly fair. How can say a large diorama scene be judged on an equal level as say a brick built creature or minifig vehicle? It just seems too broad a category for successful evaluation.


I just wanted to expand a little on Ben's answer. The judging team has certainly seen enough MOCs that we're not swayed by size. I looked through past winners of this categories, and none of them was the largest in it's year. Back in CCCIII, Mark won this with a 16x16 MOC, and last year, Micah was definitely in the running and an honorable mention with a centaur that probably would fit into an 8x8 vig. We'd much rather see someone make a smaller creation well than a huge creation poorly.

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Postby davee123 » Tue Nov 04, 2008 6:30 am

Garbageman13 wrote:Well that stinks.. I thought being creative with a small amount of bricks is good. But being creative with a not so great printer is bad?


Trying to judge fairly based on what an artist *meant* to do versus what they *did* do is amazingly difficult, if not impossible. If I needed 4 75 degree corner slopes in gray, but only had 1, and I substituted in 3 blue ones instead, I think that would be similar. Sure, you can try and imagine that I submitted a color-coordinated MOC, but if I turn in something with a bevy of rainbow colors, it's difficult to judge that appropriately. Same goes with photo quality-- if your images are grainy, dark, small, and out of focus, that'll probably affect the judging, even if you can't afford a decent digital camera.

You should try to do the best with what you've got. My advice would be:

1) Print it out at Kinko's, or whatever your local printing venue might be. It's not very expensive, but it can be high quality.
2) Find a friend, workplace printer, school printer, etc, where you can print it out for free with better quality.
3) Avoid printouts, and try a different approach. Hand painting, modifying existing stickers, etc.
4) Let your own printer stand as it is. I don't know how bad you consider your printer to be, but it may not be that negative, depending on the specifics.

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Postby albero78 » Tue Nov 04, 2008 9:19 am

I will participate in this contest and it will be the first time for me!
I'm not gonna win for sure, but I am looking forward the creations by the amazing builders of this forum!!!
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Postby Aliencat » Tue Nov 04, 2008 11:47 am

Garbageman13 wrote:
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While we were on the subject of custom figs, what if my decals don't turn out super well, since I don't have a great printer? Will I get points off or something of that sort?


Quality of craftsmanship is taken into consideration for custom figures. So if your print quality is terrible, it could negatively impact your grade.

Well that stinks.. I thought being creative with a small amount of bricks is good. But being creative with a not so great printer is bad?

If I can be so free as to give you a tip, I'd say focus on what you can do, not on what you can't do. I don't have a very good printer myself, so I'm not going to enter the custom category for example. I'm going to focus on other categories that I know I can meet the requirements of.
You don't have to enter every category, so if you feel you can't reach the quality that you would want or otherwise be able to reach, just skip that category and focus your time and efforts on a category that you know you can do well in.
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Postby JackieB » Tue Nov 04, 2008 12:09 pm

Oooh, this is exciting, there are some categories I might be able to put an entry together for! Thank you!

I actually joined the c-c forum in order to enter the mini castle contest, which I entered on the basis that I'd never be able to do the full size one. But now I 'm tempted.

We shall see.....
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Re: Colossal Castle Contest VI

Postby RichardAM » Tue Nov 04, 2008 12:44 pm

The Rules wrote:Submissions can be entered into other LEGO contests but still must meet our category requirements. You can not submit any creations posted online or shown in public before November 1st, 2008.


architect wrote:We will be working on setting up the entry submission system over the next two weeks.


Is it okay to begin uploading to Flickr/Brickshelf et al now? Technically this would result in the entries being shown before they were actually submitted, I just wanted to check that this was okay?
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Postby Garbageman13 » Tue Nov 04, 2008 1:29 pm

davee123 wrote:
Garbageman13 wrote:Well that stinks.. I thought being creative with a small amount of bricks is good. But being creative with a not so great printer is bad?


Trying to judge fairly based on what an artist *meant* to do versus what they *did* do is amazingly difficult, if not impossible. If I needed 4 75 degree corner slopes in gray, but only had 1, and I substituted in 3 blue ones instead, I think that would be similar. Sure, you can try and imagine that I submitted a color-coordinated MOC, but if I turn in something with a bevy of rainbow colors, it's difficult to judge that appropriately. Same goes with photo quality-- if your images are grainy, dark, small, and out of focus, that'll probably affect the judging, even if you can't afford a decent digital camera.

You should try to do the best with what you've got. My advice would be:

1) Print it out at Kinko's, or whatever your local printing venue might be. It's not very expensive, but it can be high quality.
2) Find a friend, workplace printer, school printer, etc, where you can print it out for free with better quality.
3) Avoid printouts, and try a different approach. Hand painting, modifying existing stickers, etc.
4) Let your own printer stand as it is. I don't know how bad you consider your printer to be, but it may not be that negative, depending on the specifics.

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Thank you for taking the time to post that! I appreciate it!

About the whole,"creativity" thing, I still think it's a bit unfair, but I'll
do my best.

Oh, Kinkos sounds like the best idea. If my printer ain't the greatest, I'll go there. I wonder if they can print out my small sheet of decal paper though... I'll have to look that up.


Aliencat wrote:
Garbageman13 wrote:While we were on the subject of custom figs, what if my decals don't turn out super well, since I don't have a great printer? Will I get points off or something of that sort?



Quality of craftsmanship is taken into consideration for custom figures. So if your print quality is terrible, it could negatively impact your grade.


Well that stinks.. I thought being creative with a small amount of bricks is good. But being creative with a not so great printer is bad?


If I can be so free as to give you a tip, I'd say focus on what you can do, not on what you can't do. I don't have a very good printer myself, so I'm not going to enter the custom category for example. I'm going to focus on other categories that I know I can meet the requirements of.
You don't have to enter every category, so if you feel you can't reach the quality that you would want or otherwise be able to reach, just skip that category and focus your time and efforts on a category that you know you can do well in.


Thanks!! I still plan to get my feet wet, and try out the whole sha-bang of
catagories, or atleast most. My friend and I plan to work together on making some great entries.
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Re: Colossal Castle Contest VI

Postby architect » Tue Nov 04, 2008 1:40 pm

RichardAM wrote:Is it okay to begin uploading to Flickr/Brickshelf et al now? Technically this would result in the entries being shown before they were actually submitted, I just wanted to check that this was okay?


Yes. It is after November 1st so you can put the images up on brickshelf or flickr.

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Postby kris kelvin » Tue Nov 04, 2008 2:30 pm

I have a question:
In the Secret Hideout category must be built entire building, or can be a piece and interior?
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