The Return of Atlantis

[the_Rascal_King]

Ant,
Forget all that! hehe
This is the most creative fan-made torso I've ever seen. Great job!
I'm surprised no-one took into account that Atlantis predates Greece, and Greeks were notorious for showing some skin
Since their society predates even the promiscuous Greeks, they would naturally be dressed in a way that society would consider skimpy. (Although, with how young girls are dressing nowadays, this is a considerably hypocritical way of thinking!)
Don't censor your art. If people don't like this torso, they shouldn't use it, period.
You're not forcing them to, are you? hehe
That's it! I see your evil plan now! You plot to make all minifig women easy, and therefore easy to conquer! hehehe


I kid. Don't kill me.

[SavaTheAggie]

Alrighty, if you click on the link again and reload, you'll find I've added some more meat on her bones. She is now the same width in the waist as the Sylvan Elves (adding 6 pixels on either side).

I'm not adding any more weight to her. Period.

And as Jason suggested, as I was already planning, I am not censoring my art. If you don't like it, if your parents don't approve of it, if it makes you embaressed, don't use it! Don't click on the link! Simple as that.

The belt/dress is not going anywhere. Period.

I'm calling this torso done.

I have plans for two more female Atlantean torsos (thanks for the spell check JP!) one torso only, one torso and dress. The dress will be a MUCH more modest full, airy robe, and the torso only will be a female armor version of the male armor.

I will post updates, if there is interest, when I come up with new torsos both male and female, as well as shields (I've already completed the Oval shield version for this faction).

And thanks for all the feedback guys, even those who disapproved, I appreciate the input.

--Anthony

[wlister]

Just for the record my post was meant to be humorous. I really didn't expect Anthony to change the torso or raise the belt line. I thought the prudish commentary would be funny, but it seems to have been misinterpreted.


"Note to self: Try to make humorous commentary funny."



Will

[doctorsparkles]

I think the extra width is just what it needed... anything else I said was in good fun. After all, I'm about the furthest from prudish that you can get. I remember back when I was into building town creations, I built the local strip club. I was probably around 13 or 14 at the time. Ah, memories.
I was thinking that this design could easily be converted into some sort of belly dancer character. Just a thought.
Can't wait to see more designs.

[Lord_Of_The_LEGO]

Just for the record my post was meant to be humorous. I really didn't expect Anthony to change the torso or raise the belt line. I thought the prudish commentary would be funny, but it seems to have been misinterpreted.

Ditto. I really like the torso and I was only kidding. Don't censor your awesome work!

[TwoTonic Knight]

And as Jason suggested, as I was already planning, I am not censoring my art.

Heck, I was going to ask for smaller sea shells!

[Red Bean]

Hi Anthony,

You know I've never had much to say about your previous stuffs, after all, Lego has already 'made' them and it's not like we can comment a lot on the designs and stuffs... but I'm just in love with your original works these days!! So wonderful and Lego-like at the same time, which is probably the hardest thing of all to do. Excellent work my friend!

Now to the actual Atlantean herself, finely drawn she is, there are a few areas I feel you can consider tinkering (though these are just my personal opinions so feel free to ignore). First of all, I don't really like the idea of drawing a figure in the middle of a torso, and leaving the areas around the body/dress gray/blank. If you look at the lego queen, for instance, you'll see that the red area around the body looks like it forms her outter coat, and that the black areas actually resemble the inside of her coat (at least it leaves room for this kind of interpretation). Maybe you can consider extending the cloak of your figure so it extends all the way to the bottom, much like the lego queen?



Which brings be to my second point, which is about the cloak itself. I don't really favour the method of 'drawing' cloaks on the torso directly (though I understand sometimes it's unavoidable), because I feel it would interfere with a figure's playability - namely it'll look weird if we give it a cape afterwards. So one suggestion is instead of a cloak, you can alter the design and make it into a long coat somehow?

And thirdly, just a minor thing which is I like the way you use the shading on her dress, but I personally would favour solid lines more as I always feel it's more lego-esque that way. The simpler sometimes is really better, IMHO

Anyway, I hope my comments wouldn't get misinterpreted as negative or anything, because really, your new stuffs are already masterpieces no matter what Keep drawing and I look forward to seeing more factions from you in the future.

R. B.
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[SavaTheAggie]

Hi Anthony,

Anyway, I hope my comments wouldn't get misinterpreted as negative or anything, because really, your new stuffs are already masterpieces no matter what Keep drawing and I look forward to seeing more factions from you in the future.

R. B.
visit my website: www.redbeanstudio.net[/img]

Hey Red,

I owe the original stuff in LEGO style to re-creating all the original LEGO designs. It kinda gets you inside the designer's heads.

I suppose I could try for a long robe/coat, though that's kind of what I was going for, with her outer garment being two toned (blue outside, grey inside), I guess it just doesn't translate well in having the robe slowly uncurl so none of the blue shows towards front the further down you go.

I decided I had to have something on the outside of the torso cause she just took up so little of the actual template.

As for the shading, I agree, simpler is better, but in the case of these dresses I just down know what to do. It's this huge space of blank color, and simple lines and blank spaces just don't look good to me in such a huge amount of space. Kevin Hall originaly used the shading for his dresses, so I just followed suit for lack of a better option. Fortunately, however, the shading thing is easy to reverse, once I find an alternative I'm happy with.

In any case, I welcome the feedback, thank you. I know nothing you, or frankly anyone in this thread, have said that was meant to be insulting or anything but constructive. I always appreciate the constructive criticism.

--Anthony

[jamitjames]

I think that your taking LEGO to far.....

[doctorsparkles]

Now to the actual Atlantean herself, finely drawn she is, there are a few areas I feel you can consider tinkering (though these are just my personal opinions so feel free to ignore). First of all, I don't really like the idea of drawing a figure in the middle of a torso, and leaving the areas around the body/dress gray/blank. If you look at the lego queen, for instance, you'll see that the red area around the body looks like it forms her outter coat, and that the black areas actually resemble the inside of her coat (at least it leaves room for this kind of interpretation). Maybe you can consider extending the cloak of your figure so it extends all the way to the bottom, much like the lego queen?

This was exactly how I was feeling as well, but I just couldn't figure out how to say it. Thanks.
Once again, I apologize for comments earlier that may have seemed prudish. I think it's ridiculous that people are making so much of a stink over a sticker to put onto a little plastic woman.

[Formendacil]

No way I'm using this. There was obviously a lot of work put into this, but my figs are all reasonably modest, and not obscene. And personally, I don't think that a 'prehistorically accurate' Atlantean would have this much skin showing. At least not in those areas. Maybe overall, but with the lower reaches of the dress gone, and belly covered.

Just my thoughts.

[SavaTheAggie]

No way I'm using this. There was obviously a lot of work put into this, but my figs are all reasonably modest, and not obscene. And personally, I don't think that a 'prehistorically accurate' Atlantean would have this much skin showing. At least not in those areas. Maybe overall, but with the lower reaches of the dress gone, and belly covered.

Just my thoughts.

The ancient Egyptians wore pretty simple clothing, and many common women wore dresses that covered their legs and up to their belly.

And it stopped there.

Yes, Egyptians did not view bare breasts as being immodest. The female dress was a simple tube with straps, that in most cases either came just up just under or only partially covered the woman's breasts.

Depicted in hieroglyphs, Ancient Egyptians servant women wore this large neck collar that didn't cover the breasts, and a little (and I mean little) belt that barely covered anything.

Other cultures of the time viewed it all the same way.

Many 'primitive' cultures today do not view the naked female upper body as being anything but normal. Heck, look at every single African and South American 'primitive' tribe shown on the discovery channel, bare chests everywhere. If the Christian Missionaries haven't reached them yet, that is.

So how about I raise the dress up and expose her chest?

--Anthony

[Formendacil]

Do what you like. No offense is intended. I'm just saying that the values in my culture are Catholic in origin, and since it takes place in a clime similar to Alberta's, bare bellies would not be advisable. (Although on hot days like today, that theory is rather difficult to prove.)

[Barbapple]

Do what you like. No offense is intended. I'm just saying that the values in my culture are Catholic in origin, and since it takes place in a clime similar to Alberta's, bare bellies would not be advisable. (Although on hot days like today, that theory is rather difficult to prove.)

Just one minute,
I would just like to say that your views, and the views of "Adlantians" Differ. I really like the looks of Anthony's fig, and I don't see a thing wrong with it, like the bulk of the people who have reply'd on this topic.

Oh, and there is no proof as to where atlantis is, how do you know it has alberta's climb? It could be on the Equator. The water could work as a magnifing glass. you never know.

[the_Rascal_King]

So how about I raise the dress up and expose her chest?

Do it! Do it! hehehe