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Today I am presenting one of my quickly thrown together MOCs, Tower Retburg. I know the photos are still pretty meh, but I believe I am improving slowly. The whole point of this MOC was me trying to get the creative juices flowing, and it did so successfully, I think. :) Without further ado, here it is. Brickshelf photos will be added and the link posted to my Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/42951625@N ... hotostream

Backstory: An attack is lead against the Duke's tower and home by the Dragon Kingdom in retaliation to the ineffective attempt at a peace treaty. King Peter I of the Dragon Kingdom requested a peace treaty regarding the Lion Kingdom's attacks on outer territories. King Francis IV refused to sign the treaty, at the Duke Charles II's advice. Here, an assault is lead on the Duke's home in the grassy plains of the border territories. The Duke is thrown from his horse and killed by Dragon Knights, and the assault to capture the tower continues.

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Enjoy and let me know how I can improve. :)
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As you mentioned over on Flickr, you really should work on your photography. I can forgive a poor photograph, but leaving a mess behind your MOC is just lazy IMO. The actual build isn't half bad but the presentation is lacking. I think that properly documenting your development as a builder is very helpful, but that means you need to clean your building space before snapping you pictures.

In regards to the build, small details are the key here. You have the basics down but you need to add a few finer details to make your MOC stand out. The stone walkway has a nice feel to it with a good bit of variety between the dark and light grey. I would suggest trying a few smaller cottages. Try to make them as detailed as possible and look to incorporate at least 3 building techniques you've never used before. You have the foundations of a great builder but you need to experiment a bit more. Keep up the good work and try to be a bit more particular with your photos.
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Blueandwhite wrote:As you mentioned over on Flickr, you really should work on your photography. I can forgive a poor photograph, but leaving a mess behind your MOC is just lazy IMO. The actual build isn't half bad but the presentation is lacking. I think that properly documenting your development as a builder is very helpful, but that means you need to clean your building space before snapping you pictures.
Thank you for your advice. I would have moved the mess, but I originally planned on editing that out with editing software. Shortly thereafter, I realized the software I was using was not capable. :( Again though, thank you for your advice, it means a lot.
In regards to the build, small details are the key here. You have the basics down but you need to add a few finer details to make your MOC stand out. The stone walkway has a nice feel to it with a good bit of variety between the dark and light grey. I would suggest trying a few smaller cottages. Try to make them as detailed as possible and look to incorporate at least 3 building techniques you've never used before. You have the foundations of a great builder but you need to experiment a bit more. Keep up the good work and try to be a bit more particular with your photos.
Will do. The photography is what I feel what my weakest point is, but I will certainly try to advance in building techniques as well. :)

Thank you very much, I've never gotten such an informative and helpful critique before. I appreciate it. :)
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You mention your "poor" photography skills quite a bit, but they aren't really that bad. The picture has decent focus and you got your whole MOC in there. Like Blueandwhite said, it is more a matter of making sure you only show what you want in the picture. I highly suggest doing as much of that as you can before you take the picture, rather than relying on editing software. There is only so much the software can do. Lightboxes can be cheaply made and are more than worth the cost, especially for small MOCs. My own minimalistic lightbox cost about 15 dollars to throw together. Of course they won't work for a MOC this big, but you might pick up a white flat bed sheet and use that under and behind your MOC. It gives you a nice neutral background, as long as you iron it first. ;)

Regarding your MOC itself, this is a very decent scene. What really stood out to me was the figs and how they were posed. You obviously have a knack for that and should develop it. They all look very fluid but not regimented. That is something I look for and it is nice to see in your scene. The reloading crossbowman is a nice touch. You obviously put some thought into the figs.

The castle itself is fair to middling, mostly because the walls go straight up. The effort at mottling is a good start (I often forget about mottling in my own creations) but some overhang for the battlements or some detail to spice up the walls will get you out of the "Big Grey Wall Syndrome".

I like the cobbled road. That is nicely done. Perhaps curving it to the side, so that it ends of the edge of the baseplate would give the illusion that it continues. Having it simply fade away isn't quite realistic.

Lastly, I was impressed with your attitude and response to Blueandwhite's critique. Most people are not actually keen on constructive criticism. Your response showed that you really do want to improve, which is why I wrote my own, rather lengthy, reply.

By the way, I added you as a contact on Flickr (I'm floodllama), so I can keep up with you on there as well.

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JoshWedin wrote:You mention your "poor" photography skills quite a bit, but they aren't really that bad. The picture has decent focus and you got your whole MOC in there. Like Blueandwhite said, it is more a matter of making sure you only show what you want in the picture. I highly suggest doing as much of that as you can before you take the picture, rather than relying on editing software. There is only so much the software can do. Lightboxes can be cheaply made and are more than worth the cost, especially for small MOCs. My own minimalistic lightbox cost about 15 dollars to throw together. Of course they won't work for a MOC this big, but you might pick up a white flat bed sheet and use that under and behind your MOC. It gives you a nice neutral background, as long as you iron it first. ;)
I'll have to try that. Originally, I thought maybe posterboard would be nice, but a white sheet seems like a very good idea, thank you for that. :)
Regarding your MOC itself, this is a very decent scene. What really stood out to me was the figs and how they were posed. You obviously have a knack for that and should develop it. They all look very fluid but not regimented. That is something I look for and it is nice to see in your scene. The reloading crossbowman is a nice touch. You obviously put some thought into the figs.
Thank you! I'm glad somebody noticed that. I found with other battle scenes that figs can seem to be static and rather bland. I tried to make the minifigs look as if the MOC had been caught in motion.
The castle itself is fair to middling, mostly because the walls go straight up. The effort at mottling is a good start (I often forget about mottling in my own creations) but some overhang for the battlements or some detail to spice up the walls will get you out of the "Big Grey Wall Syndrome".
Yeah, the original purpose of this MOC was to test out castles and towers in a shape other than what I normally do. Rectangles and squares is what I usually build towers in, so I tried a Latin cross shape for it. Originally it was going to be much bigger, but I ran out of the bricks I was using. More detail is something I plan on using in my next MOC, with larger and more intricate arch windows.
I like the cobbled road. That is nicely done. Perhaps curving it to the side, so that it ends of the edge of the baseplate would give the illusion that it continues. Having it simply fade away isn't quite realistic.
Thank you! I wasn't too sure about the cobbled road. I have experimented with various patterns, some with more tiles and less studs, and some vice versa. I'm glad this one goes over well with others. :) As for the road ending rather short of the plate, I have to say I ran out of available plates and all the 1x1s were on another MOC (Which has yet to be photographed, time to test out your advice!).
Lastly, I was impressed with your attitude and response to Blueandwhite's critique. Most people are not actually keen on constructive criticism. Your response showed that you really do want to improve, which is why I wrote my own, rather lengthy, reply.
Well I'm very glad and appreciative that you and Blueandwhite were able to give me constructive critique. Thank you very much to both of you.
By the way, I added you as a contact on Flickr (I'm floodllama), so I can keep up with you on there as well.

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I noticed that, thank you very much for that and the reply in general. :)
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This scene looks nice, as the size of the castle is appropriate for the number of men attacking. I noticed that you don't have any leader types directing their repective forces. Also I would add a small catapult for the attackers, such as the one in set 7950 Knights Showdown. I do like the figure placement.
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Blueandwhite and Josh have already said most of what I wanted to say, but I'll add a few words anyway.

Your minifig placement/scene design is very good, it looks alive and there are some good details in there. The castle itself is all right, it has a nice shape (rather than just being, you know, square) and I like the fact that you tile the studs to make it sleek - but it lacks some details to make it stand out. In my opinion the single spot that can make the biggest difference on a castle such as this is the top: Some detail to your merlons and/or corbels could make it shine a lot brighter. That's where I'd start, anyway.

How much of your collection is in this?

Based on the attention to detail that you obviously have, the progress that already can be seen in your small Flickr portfolio, and most of all the way you've conducted yourself in this thread, I think you will be a great builder - if you want to. I also added you on Flickr, by the way.
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Before I go on, I would like to thank you Tower of Iron Will for commenting. :)
wobnam wrote:Blueandwhite and Josh have already said most of what I wanted to say, but I'll add a few words anyway.

Your minifig placement/scene design is very good, it looks alive and there are some good details in there. The castle itself is all right, it has a nice shape (rather than just being, you know, square) and I like the fact that you tile the studs to make it sleek - but it lacks some details to make it stand out. In my opinion the single spot that can make the biggest difference on a castle such as this is the top: Some detail to your merlons and/or corbels could make it shine a lot brighter. That's where I'd start, anyway.
I will have to try that. I've done a previous MOC, long ago, that featured detailed merlons. It was Pirate themed, but I'm sure the simple technique could be found again for retesting.
How much of your collection is in this?
Of my total collection, all bricks of all colors that is, this MOC is not much. But if we are talking about bley bricks (those of the 1 by X and 2 by X kind) then maybe about 1/8th of that portion of my collection. Luckily I have friends who are no longer utilizing their LEGO and are willing to contribute to me. :D
Based on the attention to detail that you obviously have, the progress that already can be seen in your small Flickr portfolio, and most of all the way you've conducted yourself in this thread, I think you will be a great builder - if you want to. I also added you on Flickr, by the way.
Thank you! I've also added you as a contact on Flickr.
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Nice tower! The shape is cool and original, (at least in my experience). The only thing I saw that needed improvement would be your landscaping, it is all flat. Try adding a little depth to it and see how it looks. I just did that on my gatehouse and it looks way better.
Overall great work!
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