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LOTR beasts: molded or brick-built?

Postby athronieth » Sun Sep 09, 2012 2:42 pm

Not sure if this is in the right place, so moderator please move if need be. So, anyway, hopefully LEGO will be including some of the cool beasts from LOTR and TH in future sets, such as the Fell Beasts of the Nazgul, the Balrog from the Mines of Moria, the eagles, the wargs, Smaug, and so on. Maybe even the Great Goblin will exceed minifig proportions. Now, my first impulse was to hope all these would be brick-built 'cause that is what LEGO is all about, right? However, I am switching to hoping they are mold-based. Why? LEGO's move from brick built horses to molded horses years ago kind of sums up my attitude. Other examples: the elephant from the Orient line and dinosaurs from the Dino line. I think LEGO could do something similar with the fell beast and balrog. Same with wargs being done similar to horse molds (and new poseable bear). The eagles might be an exception, though, like the molded chicken--I much prefer brick-built chickens! :roflol: What do others think: would you rather see molded or brick-built LOTR and TH beasts?
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Re: LOTR beasts: molded or brick-built?

Postby friskywhiskers » Sun Sep 09, 2012 11:32 pm

Hmm, that is a good question. I haven't really given this much thought before, but now that you mention it this is what I'd like to see:

Balrog: Brick built
Eagles: Brick built
Ents: Brick Built
Wargs: Brick built
Nazgul: Molded

Those brick built ones should employ some sort of ball/socket method, except for the eagles. :)
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Re: LOTR beasts: molded or brick-built?

Postby architect » Mon Sep 10, 2012 1:49 am

Speculation threads belong in the Dear LEGO forum. I will move this thread there.

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Re: LOTR beasts: molded or brick-built?

Postby Forestboy » Wed Sep 12, 2012 2:07 pm

Here's the thing:

Brick built monsters are great for larger scale creatures because you can't really get the detail you want in a small animal. Not always the case though, because sometimes you don't need that detail (like how people have build mini-fig scale sheep).

Here's my two cents:
Balrog: Brick built
Eagles: Molded
Ents: Brick Built
Wargs: Molded
Nazgul: Brick Built

No offense, but I really hate the dragons from the Castle (2007) line because it was like...5 pieces in total. That would really stink if it happened to LOTR sets. I think we can get something more like the Vikings dragons, or the creator type dragons, etc. and have a better result.

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Re: LOTR beasts: molded or brick-built?

Postby Frank_Lloyd_Knight » Tue Oct 16, 2012 4:56 pm

I agree with Forestboy; I think it's all about scale. In my opinion the molded chickens are about 30 years overdue, but I still have a fondness for brick-built horses. I imagine that this is a huge perennial question when Lego designs sets. If the forum ever has the opportunity for a discussion session with any TLG designers, I'd love to ask them about the internal thought processes for making such decisions.

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Re: LOTR beasts: molded or brick-built?

Postby Bruce N H » Fri Oct 19, 2012 1:22 am

Brickbuilt:
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Re: LOTR beasts: molded or brick-built?

Postby AK_Brickster » Fri Oct 19, 2012 5:13 pm

Wargs and Goblin King are going to be molded, for those of you who haven't seen the pics yet.

That balrog is so amazing. I really hope that they make it. Same goes for the Nazgul
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Re: LOTR beasts: molded or brick-built?

Postby mencot » Wed Nov 21, 2012 6:49 am

AK_Brickster wrote:Wargs and Goblin King are going to be molded, for those of you who haven't seen the pics yet.

That balrog is so amazing. I really hope that they make it. Same goes for the Nazgul


I agree these would look best brickbuilt but on the official Lego LOTR site there is a image from the videogame of the Witch King on a Fell beast: http://thelordoftherings.lego.com/en-us/videogame/default.aspx (Forces of Dark)
And if Lego will make one, they probably will go with that (these where probably already seen on wired.com :D)
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Re: LOTR beasts: molded or brick-built?

Postby Medieval Guy » Thu Nov 22, 2012 2:43 am

Bruce N H wrote:Brickbuilt:
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Would Lego actually connect the fire pieces like that? is that "Legal"?
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Postby Karalora » Thu Nov 22, 2012 4:06 am

Apart from size, I make a distinction between "normal" or domestic animals and monsters. The latter can look fantastic when brick-built, but the former are apt to look rather robotic. Molded animals can have more subtle curvature to their bodies, as well as printed faces and markings. It makes them look cozier and more like animals that you can imagine minifigs interacting with on a daily basis.
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Re: LOTR beasts: molded or brick-built?

Postby mencot » Thu Nov 22, 2012 6:55 am

Medieval Guy wrote:Would Lego actually connect the fire pieces like that? is that "Legal"?

Do you know someone with the "rights" to that technique and this isn´t the first time TLG has borrowed something from the FOL-community. One can think as it as a tribute, I would. :D
Karalora wrote:Apart from size, I make a distinction between "normal" or domestic animals and monsters. The latter can look fantastic when brick-built, but the former are apt to look rather robotic. Molded animals can have more subtle curvature to their bodies, as well as printed faces and markings. It makes them look cozier and more like animals that you can imagine minifigs interacting with on a daily basis.

I agree on this, the animals that have been brick-built are rather small (like ducks, chickens) so they look also blocky, without detail. So they are better molded and they fit better in then with the minifigs.
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Re: LOTR beasts: molded or brick-built?

Postby Elderon » Thu Nov 22, 2012 7:29 pm

Well since the pin is on there and it fits perfectly in the hole of a flame, as in it is almost made for it, it would be odd not to use it. It just hasn't been used for that yet ;)
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Re: LOTR beasts: molded or brick-built?

Postby Redav » Fri Nov 23, 2012 1:33 am

mencot wrote:Do you know someone with the "rights" to that technique and this isn´t the first time TLG has borrowed something from the FOL-community. One can think as it as a tribute, I would. :D

Isn't he just asking whether it's possible for those pieces to connect like that? i.e. a legal connection, not whether they've used 'someone elses' technique?

I'd be surprised if someone hasn't had a crack at building it based on the available images.
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Re: LOTR beasts: molded or brick-built?

Postby mencot » Fri Nov 23, 2012 5:34 am

Redav wrote:
mencot wrote:Do you know someone with the "rights" to that technique and this isn´t the first time TLG has borrowed something from the FOL-community. One can think as it as a tribute, I would. :D

Isn't he just asking whether it's possible for those pieces to connect like that? i.e. a legal connection, not whether they've used 'someone elses' technique?

I'd be surprised if someone hasn't had a crack at building it based on the available images.

:oops: :roflol: oh okey one can use the word "legal" like that also :spin: I though it was strange that he would ask a thing like that.
But I also thought that it is a known technique, that the old flame pieces could be connected that way
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Re: LOTR beasts: molded or brick-built?

Postby Medieval Guy » Sun Nov 25, 2012 1:20 am

Sorry, I should have explained what I meant. I know that it is possible to connect the pieces in that way, but there are some techniques that Lego will not allow their designers to use. There is a really good pdf that I can't link to, just google "illegal building techniques".
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