Yellow Castle Legend discussion

[architect]

Without all the cool figs it's just a bunch of yellow bricks. I can't speak for everyone, but if I wanted a yellow castle I'd find the instructions and build it from pieces I already have. 375 just wouldn't be complete without the classic soldiers.

The figures are essential. I do like the Castle itself but it needs the right figures.

Preferably I would like a true copy of the 375 but that seems impossible as too many bricks have gone out of production (helmets, feathers, 1x1 windows, stickers) and also the colours have changed. So if one thing has to be changed I wouldn't mind several changes. And I think a run of 10000 could easily be sold.

But would a run of 10000 justify the cost needed to make new molds to complete the set? Perhaps it would but I am not sure. Of course if molds of the helmets/visors (even new interpretations) were made, then any of the other classic sets before 1984 could be remade in the future.

But we (and the Lego Group) can learn from this anyway. What we want is an old school / old style castle revived. Lego could look at the 375 and the 6080 as good castles with lots of useful brick and take those sets as a starter for a newly designed old school ALL BRICKS castle. We are not waiting for a KK3 line and things should be changed back to the real castle feeling that we had in the 1970s and 1980s.

This is what we want (although I am not opposed to the old smaller wall pieces). LEGO is aware that recent castle is not as good as the old stuff. Hopefully somehow fan input can be given to them so a good castle line will be developed.

I'm opposed to the idea of re-releasing legendary sets.

I respectfully disagree. But I know that it destroys the rarity of finding a hard to get old set. On the other hand, a whole new group of children get great sets that we had growing up. I would prefer, as you do, that a great new castle line be developed. Our hope in LEGO's castle design capabilities is somewhat shattered. When learning that castle would return we were thrilled and then we got kk2. For the mean time, I believe Legends are a good alternate to many current sets. Kjeld said at BrickFest that LEGO knew that many fans wanted old sets and they were committed to remaking some of the sets.

I also think that sets that were not released worldwide, such as 6060 and 6071, would be very appropriate Legends. This way Europeans who never had the sets could finally get them.

Ben

[Graynar]

Hey guys.

If we don't get any old castle sets rereleased, maybe we can hope for a new system castle line in 2007 which every one is talking about.

This seems to be a two way argument, people who want legends and people who don't.

What every TLG decides to do, I hope it's good.

Graynar

[jamtf]

I did als not object against the small castle walls. Mentioning 6080 being a good castle is sufficient proof for that. Lego can use bricks and castle walls for the new castle line as long as the design is balanced.

The brick color is not the most important for me. I guess many would like to have a tan or sand red castle which may look quite realistic. Tan bricks are quite useful for making structures and I would suggest that Lego includes a bit of mottling technique as well by using matching bricks in a slightly different color.

It would be interesting to find out what TLG thinks of this. I bet there are many AFOLs who would be interested in getting 2 or 3 copies of the newly designed set, even if it was for the bricks only, providing Lego does a good job. It could become a major success and even people who mainly collect different product lines (non castle AFOLs) should be enthusiastic about it since they can do some landscaping by adding the castle to their cities or just use the bricks for their personal creations.

I think this could be the key to a revived castle series. I would think it could not hurt to send a copy of this topic to the CEO of The Lego Group since they are always looking for good suggestions coming from true fans. And that is what it is all about, making the people happy.

[Graynar]

Well said jamtf, well said.

[jamtf]

Well said jamtf, well said.

Thanks for comment. I appreciate your input just as much.

[Kanduu]

When I first saw this castle I didn't know what all the excitement was about. Only when I looked at the instructions did I know that it is a pretty decent set, though Dragonlord Esq. does have an point about it just being a bunch on yellow.

I agree with those who would want a different color, I mean, yellow, for a castle? How many of us have built a yellow castle? I understand wanting to stay authentic too. The heraldry stuff is growing on me as well, and I'd certainly like some light-gray weapons.

I think the Legends are a good idea, it's a way of letting more of the nice sets get out. I certainly don't have the money to buy much on Ebay. Of course, I don't have much to buy anything with, I'm going to be a starving college student before too long...

There're my couple pennies, though they don't help much. There are probably, what, three main groups in this forum, and I'm part of one.

[ottoatm]

I'm afraid I have to disagree with those of you who think that:

When I first saw this castle I didn't know what all the excitement was about. Only when I looked at the instructions did I know that it is a pretty decent set, though Dragonlord Esq. does have an point about it just being a bunch on yellow.

1 - The Yellow Castle is not really just a bunch of yellow bricks without the figs. The fact is that the design is great, and the flags etc. are needed to give the design that classic feel it has as a set. In terms of the structure, you could pick up the yellow castle, tip it upside down and shake vigourously and nothing would happen... wanna try that with the Morcian castle? Also, and I think this is important, this castle is made of many small, layered bricks. That means if your little cousin sits on it, it's gonna hurt him more than it hurts the castle. This castle is designed to withstand punishment! If I turn too fast and my elbow hits Leo's castle or Morcia, towers go flying. In addition, I honestly have to say that I prefer a bunch of yellow (or grey) to big colorful pieces that look out of place to me... most of the big MOCs you see use simple designs, I think.

I agree with those who would want a different color, I mean, yellow, for a castle? How many of us have built a yellow castle?

I think that one or two yellow castle sets is not a bad idea... since there were yellow castles, why not have a set or two like that?

I think the Legends are a good idea, it's a way of letting more of the nice sets get out.

I argree with this all the way. Also, I think Legends are a great excuse for LEGO to let out some quality sets.

I certainly don't have the money to buy much on Ebay. Of course, I don't have much to buy anything with, I'm going to be a starving college student before too long...

I can understand that - having just graduated one school and going to another, I'm saving my pennies for the chess set still. That said, once I stopped boozing it up at the local pub, my collection exploded in size. It might not be as bad as you think.

Finally, just wanna tell Kanduu, I'm not attempting to pick on you or anything like that, I'm just to lazy to go and find quotes from other people you were agreeing with. [/i]

[Graynar]

Hey guys.

To continue ottoatm's speech, I have to say what is wrong with the yellow? Yellow offers variaty among the black and grey castles. With out our yellow friend here, I would feel like something is missing among all castle LEGO.

The yellow castle in my opinion is what LEGO castle should be like. Well not neccesarily in yellow, but still. The castle sets of 2000 to 2004, besides the legends are not what I would call really great castle sets, compared to the older sets. Well once I build Vladek's dark fortress my opinion might change.

Graynar

[Infyrana]

Just a comment about colours. By far not all castles were grey. The colour would very much depend on the available material in the region. Having grown up close to a very big red castle (admittedly from 1600 or so) I'm fairly flexible as to the colour of a castle. Don't think I've ever seen a blue castle though.

[Graynar]

The sea seprent had blue castle pieces.

[MrDelish]

The sea seprent had blue castle pieces.

He meant real castles' color.

[jamtf]

The sea seprent had blue castle pieces.

Don't forget to mention the dungeon hunters carriage.

Anyway, blue seems somewhat unrealistic for a castle structure but sand red or tan with some mottling would be excellent.

And I sure hope Lego finally decides to issue the light grey archer bullet helmets (see front and back cover of the #200 Building Book from 1984 + Ben's avatar). They should indefinitely become a part of the new line.

[Graynar]

Mr.Delish wrote:

The sea seprent had blue castle pieces.


He meant real castles' color.

You just hate me don't you Mr.Delish?

Graynar

[boses]

I never thought of the castle as yellow. I thought of it as gold...

[eNiGMa]

I never thought of the castle as yellow. I thought of it as gold...

That's an interesting way of looking at it, and it makes sense, too. But Lego had to use the name El Dorado Fortress for something else.