Arrow Slit: "Final" Variation and Summary
Arrow Slit: "Final" Variation and Summary
Well, it's been almost a whole day since someone last posted something about arrow slit windows.
For me it's been a long road of envisioning, building, editing, rebuilding, etc and I'd like to thank you all for your input, comments, and especially for all the other building techniques that have been shared.
Here's my "final" variation on my technique of using 1x2 panels in SNOT:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=73553
The pics that begin with either "black", "blue", or "red" highlight the core pieces necessary, which appear as the light grey parts in each picture.
"Red" shows a 2x6 footprint with an open top, suitable for the top of battlements.
"Blue" shows a 2x6 footprint with a closed top, suitable for a wall.
"Black" shows a 1x6 footprint with a closed top.
The core pieces are:
(2) 1x1 brick w/side stud
(2) 1x1 plate (regular or round)
(2) 1x2 plate
(2) 1x2 panel
plus either (1) 1x2 plate OR (1) 1x2 tile OR (2) 1x2 tile OR (1) 1x4 tile
also shown are (4) 1x1 bricks to represent the minimum front coverage needed to cover the gaps caused by building in SNOT.
With these core pieces, the walls to be built around them use standard brick dimensions (i.e. you do not need to use more plates to get all the pieces to line up).
Examples, using the "Red" configuration:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=683159
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=683163
So, I think I'm about done as far as developing is concerned.
And now for a summary:
Trolling through the MOC forum I've found the following links to various arrow slit window creations. I think it would be an excellent idea if someone were to take these and create a link page for easy reference to anyone who's thinking of adding arrow slits to their MOCs. The variety of techniques used means that just about anyone could find appropriate parts in their collection to tackle at least one style.
SNOT with slopes:
Dave O'Hare
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=66491
Lord of the Lego
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=74360
Jason Catena
http://www.jcatena.net/lego/tech/archer ... ndex.shtml
James Brink
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=74397
jtherlow
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=74396
denix
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=74378
2x3 wedge bricks:
Anthony Sava
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=73066
SNOT other:
Alan Findlay
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=73553
RandomLynch (this is really a work of art, IMO)
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=11437
Other:
Daniel Siskind
http://www.brickmania.com/Gallery2/castle/vlad5.jpg
http://www.brickmania.com/gallery/SBCastle8.jpg
http://www.brickmania.com/gallery/SBCastle1.jpg
The cross-shaped windows seen in these pics are great. I don't know the technique used, but I wanted to include them for your pleasure.
If I've missed any links, please include them in any links page. I realize that my search was not necessarily comprehensive, so if I missed yours it was not intentional.
Okay, that's enough from me.
Alan
For me it's been a long road of envisioning, building, editing, rebuilding, etc and I'd like to thank you all for your input, comments, and especially for all the other building techniques that have been shared.
Here's my "final" variation on my technique of using 1x2 panels in SNOT:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=73553
The pics that begin with either "black", "blue", or "red" highlight the core pieces necessary, which appear as the light grey parts in each picture.
"Red" shows a 2x6 footprint with an open top, suitable for the top of battlements.
"Blue" shows a 2x6 footprint with a closed top, suitable for a wall.
"Black" shows a 1x6 footprint with a closed top.
The core pieces are:
(2) 1x1 brick w/side stud
(2) 1x1 plate (regular or round)
(2) 1x2 plate
(2) 1x2 panel
plus either (1) 1x2 plate OR (1) 1x2 tile OR (2) 1x2 tile OR (1) 1x4 tile
also shown are (4) 1x1 bricks to represent the minimum front coverage needed to cover the gaps caused by building in SNOT.
With these core pieces, the walls to be built around them use standard brick dimensions (i.e. you do not need to use more plates to get all the pieces to line up).
Examples, using the "Red" configuration:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=683159
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=683163
So, I think I'm about done as far as developing is concerned.
And now for a summary:
Trolling through the MOC forum I've found the following links to various arrow slit window creations. I think it would be an excellent idea if someone were to take these and create a link page for easy reference to anyone who's thinking of adding arrow slits to their MOCs. The variety of techniques used means that just about anyone could find appropriate parts in their collection to tackle at least one style.
SNOT with slopes:
Dave O'Hare
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=66491
Lord of the Lego
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=74360
Jason Catena
http://www.jcatena.net/lego/tech/archer ... ndex.shtml
James Brink
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=74397
jtherlow
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=74396
denix
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=74378
2x3 wedge bricks:
Anthony Sava
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=73066
SNOT other:
Alan Findlay
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=73553
RandomLynch (this is really a work of art, IMO)
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=11437
Other:
Daniel Siskind
http://www.brickmania.com/Gallery2/castle/vlad5.jpg
http://www.brickmania.com/gallery/SBCastle8.jpg
http://www.brickmania.com/gallery/SBCastle1.jpg
The cross-shaped windows seen in these pics are great. I don't know the technique used, but I wanted to include them for your pleasure.
If I've missed any links, please include them in any links page. I realize that my search was not necessarily comprehensive, so if I missed yours it was not intentional.
Okay, that's enough from me.
Alan
I'm a human BEING, not a human doing!
The two most important days of your life are the day you are born
and the day you discover why. (Donald Sensing)
One plus one equals three... for large values of one. (Bruce Fournier)
The two most important days of your life are the day you are born
and the day you discover why. (Donald Sensing)
One plus one equals three... for large values of one. (Bruce Fournier)
Fantastic! I've been folowing this whole thing with interest, but haven't had the time to reply until now.
The one thing that bothered me about the other designs was the somewhat wide arrows slot. This shrinks space that an incoming arrow could travel through, and thus looks better IMHO.
The only thing I want to see now is the thin arrow slot with the more sloped shooting area...
The one thing that bothered me about the other designs was the somewhat wide arrows slot. This shrinks space that an incoming arrow could travel through, and thus looks better IMHO.
The only thing I want to see now is the thin arrow slot with the more sloped shooting area...
Re: Arrow Slit: "Final" Variation and Summary
I've verified that these links are in the entry for archer loop on my LEGO Castle Tech page. However, I have mostly linked to Classic-castle discussions instead of BrickShelf directories. Also, I haven't included Dan's cross-slits: they're neat, but there's no discussion of his style or even a close-enough picture to be able to determine exactly how he built them. I'd be happy to include his slits if we find out more detail about them.footsteps wrote: Trolling through the MOC forum I've found the following links to various arrow slit window creations. I think it would be an excellent idea if someone were to take these and create a link page for easy reference to anyone who's thinking of adding arrow slits to their MOCs. The variety of techniques used means that just about anyone could find appropriate parts in their collection to tackle at least one style.
Alan
Jason (lego at jcatena dot net)
Classic-castle [url=http://www.classic-castle.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=874]Master Gatekeeper[/url], March 2004
http://www.jcatena.net/lego
Classic-castle [url=http://www.classic-castle.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=874]Master Gatekeeper[/url], March 2004
http://www.jcatena.net/lego
Re: Arrow Slit: "Final" Variation and Summary
Thanks for your work on this, Jason. I was thinking you'd be the one to have this stuff organized and linked.catena wrote:I've verified that these links are in the entry for archer loop on my LEGO Castle Tech page. However, I have mostly linked to Classic-castle discussions instead of BrickShelf directories. Also, I haven't included Dan's cross-slits: they're neat, but there's no discussion of his style or even a close-enough picture to be able to determine exactly how he built them. I'd be happy to include his slits if we find out more detail about them.
Alan
I'm a human BEING, not a human doing!
The two most important days of your life are the day you are born
and the day you discover why. (Donald Sensing)
One plus one equals three... for large values of one. (Bruce Fournier)
The two most important days of your life are the day you are born
and the day you discover why. (Donald Sensing)
One plus one equals three... for large values of one. (Bruce Fournier)
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Indeed. There should be some sort of "Dwarf Miner" award or something for digging up the oldest thread.Pallando the Blue wrote:It was clever. Three years ago .
As far as arrow slits go, Alan's work and summary is good... even by today's 'standards'.
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I really appreciated this thread because it taught me some cool concepts. I remember when I first joined CC skimming through threads looking for arrow slit technique. Now it's all right here in one complete package with some new examples I'd never seen before. Thanks Footsteps, you rule.
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This is the funniest thread resurrection I've seen for a while. Too bad some of the links are broken.Sir Nelson wrote:Indeed. There should be some sort of "Dwarf Miner" award or something for digging up the oldest thread.Pallando the Blue wrote:It was clever. Three years ago .
As far as arrow slits go, Alan's work and summary is good... even by today's 'standards'.
To see my arrow slits in current use, go here. Nice work, if I do say so myself.
Alan
I'm a human BEING, not a human doing!
The two most important days of your life are the day you are born
and the day you discover why. (Donald Sensing)
One plus one equals three... for large values of one. (Bruce Fournier)
The two most important days of your life are the day you are born
and the day you discover why. (Donald Sensing)
One plus one equals three... for large values of one. (Bruce Fournier)
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Re: Arrow Slit: "Final" Variation and Summary
I'm sure this has been done but havent seen it posted after looking throug various arrow slits: a 1x4 flat with the two middle pegs missing allows for chees wedges. it's not as smooth since the bottoms of the wedges are cut like tile pieces. i left an intentional gap to get the clasic cross slit, but can easily be done with out it going a bit taller with two 1x2 wedges stacked.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/93034758@N ... otostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/93034758@N ... otostream/
to get the smooth front using those L pieces it took 3 tile spaces in a row as the base to get the whole slit one brick deep, but didnt like ithe spacing as much. Also the tiles just made it not smoot in a dfferent place.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/93034758@N ... otostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/93034758@N ... otostream/
to get the smooth front using those L pieces it took 3 tile spaces in a row as the base to get the whole slit one brick deep, but didnt like ithe spacing as much. Also the tiles just made it not smoot in a dfferent place.
Re: Arrow Slit: "Final" Variation and Summary
I have actually never seen someone use this before so you may be the first. It's quite an interesting technique.nackanator wrote:I'm sure this has been done but havent seen it posted after looking throug various arrow slits: a 1x4 flat with the two middle pegs missing allows for chees wedges. it's not as smooth since the bottoms of the wedges are cut like tile pieces. i left an intentional gap to get the clasic cross slit, but can easily be done with out it going a bit taller with two 1x2 wedges stacked.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/93034758@N ... otostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/93034758@N ... otostream/
to get the smooth front using those L pieces it took 3 tile spaces in a row as the base to get the whole slit one brick deep, but didnt like ithe spacing as much. Also the tiles just made it not smoot in a dfferent place.
Though I must ask, what's with the knight riding the ostrich in the background of the pictures for?
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Re: Arrow Slit: "Final" Variation and Summary
Intimidation factor!
Aso, it's probably like the knuckle ball of jousting; horses are just too predictable.
Aso, it's probably like the knuckle ball of jousting; horses are just too predictable.