Since nobody else replied to this, I'll assume it went straight over some people's heads.Sir Vincent wrote:The big guys are called Kerreks. The little guys are called Johnkas.
But I got it. Very witty.
Just to be sure, it's spelled 'Jhonka'.
Trolls? Orcs? Goblins? Half-Orcs? What do you call'em?
But I got it. Very witty.
Just to be sure, it's spelled 'Jhonka'.
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That silence where the birds are dead yet something pipeth like a bird?
That silence where the birds are dead yet something pipeth like a bird?
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Well it did indeed go over my head so could you explain it perhaps?Foxglove wrote:Since nobody else replied to this, I'll assume it went straight over some people's heads.Sir Vincent wrote:The big guys are called Kerreks. The little guys are called Johnkas.
But I got it. Very witty.
Just to be sure, it's spelled 'Jhonka'.
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Yet another Peasant's Quest reference.Sir Kohran wrote:Well it did indeed go over my head so could you explain it perhaps?Foxglove wrote:Since nobody else replied to this, I'll assume it went straight over some people's heads.Sir Vincent wrote:The big guys are called Kerreks. The little guys are called Johnkas.
But I got it. Very witty.
Just to be sure, it's spelled 'Jhonka'.
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If you're basing this on multiple readings of the Hobbit, shouldn't these be goblins? It's been a long time, but as I recall, the word orc is only used a couple of times there.
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Yes Bruce I guess you are right about that, but the reading of the hobbit was only the start of my story... If I continued and said I read LOTR about 40 times since I was 12 I guess that would bring me full circle to my Tolkein explanation for Orc. I even have the audio CD's so I listen to the books while I build MOCS. 
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Even so, twenty times about 2 (since I think it might be three times), that's forty times he's seen the word "orc" used... plenty, really.Bruce N H wrote:If you're basing this on multiple readings of the Hobbit, shouldn't these be goblins? It's been a long time, but as I recall, the word orc is only used a couple of times there.
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[quote="Bruce N H"]If you're basing this on multiple readings of the Hobbit, shouldn't these be goblins? It's been a long time, but as I recall, the word orc is only used a couple of times there.
well goblins are orks who live in caves and tunnles
uruk- hai are advandsed orks
just like we have chinase and english they both are humens but they look difrent and have difrent names
well goblins are orks who live in caves and tunnles
uruk- hai are advandsed orks
just like we have chinase and english they both are humens but they look difrent and have difrent names
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Difficult to answer, since this is mostly dependable on "what you have seen before".
Orc or Goblin (mixed use by e.g. Tolkien) would fit on size. But Tolkien never depicted them "green-skinned"
Troll, like Lego calls them, doesnt seem to fit either. In German folklore these creatures are already bigger then humans and in most fantasy descriptions "Troll" is the perfect name for what Lego calls "Giant Troll"
Half-orc is a nice twist, but if this is a half-orc I would be startled to what would be a "full-orc"
Since Warhammer depicted Orcs "green", which was taken by many fantasy writers and books.
So for me, they are Orcs, but of course we need to leave our "Tolkien-origin" behind us...
Orc or Goblin (mixed use by e.g. Tolkien) would fit on size. But Tolkien never depicted them "green-skinned"
Troll, like Lego calls them, doesnt seem to fit either. In German folklore these creatures are already bigger then humans and in most fantasy descriptions "Troll" is the perfect name for what Lego calls "Giant Troll"
Half-orc is a nice twist, but if this is a half-orc I would be startled to what would be a "full-orc"
Since Warhammer depicted Orcs "green", which was taken by many fantasy writers and books.
So for me, they are Orcs, but of course we need to leave our "Tolkien-origin" behind us...
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i call them green-skinned humanoid lifeform of medium stature of approximately 5-6 feet in height and medium weight of 150-200 lbs. 
just refer to them as trolls since TLC calls them trolls. if you come up with fancy smancy names it just confuse people further down the road. there's a reason why we still call black falcons black falcons instead of dark skinned flying predatorial birds.
plus there's the issue with copyright if TLC started calling them as something else (who knows if orc is copyrighted???).
just refer to them as trolls since TLC calls them trolls. if you come up with fancy smancy names it just confuse people further down the road. there's a reason why we still call black falcons black falcons instead of dark skinned flying predatorial birds.
plus there's the issue with copyright if TLC started calling them as something else (who knows if orc is copyrighted???).
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Sir Vincent,
Why is it invalid again? Why would you have to call them what TLC calls them. That creates limitations that Lego in their own mission statements refutes. The imagination and ability to create what you wish is the entire point of Lego. I would not name them trolls as having two clearly separate creatures called the same species name is illogical. I have never called the Lion Knights 'Crusaders' as I never thought of them as such. In fact the great majority of my Legoverse is non Lego factions. Since the point of the post was what people call them in their own Legoverse they can do as they see fitting, not to find what the TLC calls them. Lego will not make you call them Trolls, Orcs, Goblins or green funky looking freak things. I am sure they do not mind/care.
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Do not think the creature orc/goblin/troll can be copyrighted as it is derived from older traditions and mythologies. If you invented a completely new specific group say the men of Rohan or specific person say Elrond that can be put under copyright. If that was the case D&D never could have used 1/2, maybe more, of their creatures for violation of Tolkien's works.
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Why is it invalid again? Why would you have to call them what TLC calls them. That creates limitations that Lego in their own mission statements refutes. The imagination and ability to create what you wish is the entire point of Lego. I would not name them trolls as having two clearly separate creatures called the same species name is illogical. I have never called the Lion Knights 'Crusaders' as I never thought of them as such. In fact the great majority of my Legoverse is non Lego factions. Since the point of the post was what people call them in their own Legoverse they can do as they see fitting, not to find what the TLC calls them. Lego will not make you call them Trolls, Orcs, Goblins or green funky looking freak things. I am sure they do not mind/care.
Nate,
Do not think the creature orc/goblin/troll can be copyrighted as it is derived from older traditions and mythologies. If you invented a completely new specific group say the men of Rohan or specific person say Elrond that can be put under copyright. If that was the case D&D never could have used 1/2, maybe more, of their creatures for violation of Tolkien's works.
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No, Sir Vincent. You are missing my point.
Dr. Cogg's post heavily implied (speaking of "proving" that they are trolls and so on) that we all have to call them trolls because that is what Lego calls them. Whereas the whole point of this topic is to find out what we as individuals call them.
Now, had he said that he personally prefers to call them trolls because that is what Lego named them, I would have had no issue.
Dr. Cogg's post heavily implied (speaking of "proving" that they are trolls and so on) that we all have to call them trolls because that is what Lego calls them. Whereas the whole point of this topic is to find out what we as individuals call them.
Now, had he said that he personally prefers to call them trolls because that is what Lego named them, I would have had no issue.