Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 6:15 am
Victory to the Black Falcons! Yay!
So... The BF are pagan, since they do have a Warlock and attack Hospitallers?
So... The BF are pagan, since they do have a Warlock and attack Hospitallers?
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No, they are not. They are the knights who fight in the sign of the evangelist John, as the eagle is the symbol of John. (I'm supposed to know it because my name is John, too (Johannes in German).)The Hordesman wrote:So... The BF are pagan, since they do have a Warlock and attack Hospitallers? :wink:
It was more a matter of certain rich (and wanting to get richer) Crusaders getting lazy and eyeing the ripe pluckings of Constantinople than any theological difference in this particular situation. Oh, there were theological differences, right enough, and those were certainly used as justification, but the main reason had to do with greed. And the marching orders to attack came from the "on-site" leaders of the Crusade, not from back in Europe, in Rome or anywhere else.The Hordesman wrote:Ive heard about crusaders attacking the ortodox church, since it was the enemy of the pope and was thought to be "heretics" by Rome at the time, but the Warlock leaves some question marks.
Sometimes it can be hard for cultures to get rid of their old pagan ways.but the Warlock leaves some question marks.
Well, since the thread has been split off, I might as well take the opportunity to ask a little bit about the BF eagle heraldry... I always thought it was pretty unique and very cool, but I never guessed it was an exact replica of an existing heraldry (although I was sure that the eagle was used in many different forms during those times).They are the knights who fight in the sign of the evangelist John, as the eagle is the symbol of John. (I'm supposed to know it because my name is John, too (Johannes in German).)
Exact replica....ottoatm wrote:Well, since the thread has been split off, I might as well take the opportunity to ask a little bit about the BF eagle heraldry... I always thought it was pretty unique and very cool, but I never guessed it was an exact replica of an existing heraldry (although I was sure that the eagle was used in many different forms during those times).
I wonder if anyone has more info or links about the Evangelist John? It'd be cool to see a little more about where the BF sign comes from.
Well, the exact shape of an eagle or of any else animal or thing in heraldry doesn't matter too much. If the coat of arms of a family is "Eagle displayed" then all that mattered was that the eagle on the shield was displayed, not the exact shape of every single feather and such.ottoatm wrote:Well, since the thread has been split off, I might as well take the opportunity to ask a little bit about the BF eagle heraldry... I always thought it was pretty unique and very cool, but I never guessed it was an exact replica of an existing heraldry (although I was sure that the eagle was used in many different forms during those times).
Of course the BF sign wasn't designed after the coat of arms of John. But you could see it like that :-)I wonder if anyone has more info or links about the Evangelist John? It'd be cool to see a little more about where the BF sign comes from.