The Abbey

draugaer · Post by **draugaer** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 2:15 am

Your use of sloped pieces is really great, those corner details are awesome

stuart2010 · Post by **stuart2010** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 4:26 am

That looks awesome! Are there interiors yet?

I never did an interior for this one, I did think about it but decided against it in the end.

The Abbey has now been taken apart so I can work on my next project.

This is a practice run on the first section of my gothic cathedral.

http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=321992

This is to work out size, proportions, costings etc.

Voran_the_Scholar · Post by **Voran_the_Scholar** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 12:56 pm

Wow! The cathedral--from what I can see--is going to be awesome! Keep up the good work!

God bless.

Tom

draugaer · Post by **draugaer** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 6:24 pm

nice start on the cathedral, if you're still working out the proportions I'd like to make some suggestions to make it more truely gothic:

I would make the triforium shorter and raise the clerestory to be about as tall as the nave arcade.

Also in most gothic churches the triforium is not a full gallery like you have built. It is simply the section of wall that is behind the roof of the side aisles.

I think the clerestory windows should be under a single arch, then sub divided by tracery, right now it looks a bit too "heavy".

here is a good example of a high gothic cathedral:
http://www.columbia.edu/cu/gsapp/BT/EEI ... ypgoth.jpg

as a general rule for the gothic, as the church rises, the construction should become lighter so that the structure "disappears" into the sky.

stuart2010 · Post by **stuart2010** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 4:24 am

Thanks for the suggestions on the layout,

I'd copied this to start
http://www.abelard.org/france/culture/l ... ssect2.png

I'll try the moves you suggested and see how it goes.
Thanks

bikicsmilan · Post by **bikicsmilan** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 9:07 am

It looks like a gothic cathedral which is romanesque in its details... Probably a transitional style. Keep up the good work!

Aharown · Post by **Aharown** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:04 pm

I missed this earlier...

An abbey - that's cool. The windows are nice, from what I can see.

Sir Nelson wrote:This is a very good MOC. Smaller images and a neutral background would go a long way here, making it all the better.

I concur. Unfortunately, my dialup is slow, so unless I can look at this at work (frowned upon), your pictures are too large for me to open, forcing me to look at the thumbnails.

Stupid dial-up in rural areas

Oh well, a very well-made moc. The tower is very nice, and I agree that the tree roots are very clever.

So this is what your previous moc became, and I can hardly wait to see your cathedral!

draugaer · Post by **draugaer** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 6:29 am

stuart2010 wrote: I'd copied this to start
http://www.abelard.org/france/culture/l ... ssect2.png

oh cool, you were looking at laon cathedral. like bikicsmilan said its a really good example of the early gothic / transitional period style.

Its cool if you wanted to go with that style, I guess I just assumed that you were aiming for a high gothic church.

stuart2010 · Post by **stuart2010** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 9:21 am

Its cool if you wanted to go with that style, I guess I just assumed that you were aiming for a high gothic church

To be honest, I havn't really got much of a clue at the moment.
I understand that romanesque style arches are round and gothic ones are pointy but that's where my knowledge ends!

I'm going to have a go at making a complete nave and see what it looks like. It'll probably take several attempts to get the look I'm after.

I think a mixture of both romanesque and gothic will be the end result.

Heir of Black Falcon · Thu Jun 05, 2008 9:31 am

Stu,

a very basic overview-

Romanesque

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanesque_architecture

Gothic

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gothic_architecture

Round and pointy are part of the difference for sure, though one has to be careful as many large buildings took decades to build so some are a mix of both!

R

stuart2010 · Post by **stuart2010** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 9:39 am

Thats brilliant!

Thanks so much for those, they will be a real help.
I saw this image in the gothic section

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Gotic3d2.jpg

I think a strip and re-build is in the works.
Looking at those centre pilars I think to get that level of detail I'm going to have to build a bit bigger.
Those pillars could be 8 studs accross at the bottom.
The vaulted cielings will cause me a headache, but they're worth a go at constructing!