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gothic vault technique

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This isn't so much a moc as it is an example I created of how to create more realistic gothic vaults

I've seen alot of nice looking lego cathedrals/churchs, but one thing that has bothered me is that for all the great exterior work, the interiors don't have proper vaulting schemes. The "vaults" are usually nothing more than basic arches, which gives a quite different apperance than a true vaulted ceiling.

Here are some pictures to illustrate the technique: (note-I only constructed half of the technique

view up into vaults: http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/draug ... 0_0684.jpg

side view http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/draug ... 0_0686.jpg

view of the top http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/draug ... 0_0688.jpg

exploded
http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/draug ... 0_0689.jpg

another exploded view http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/draug ... 0_0690.jpg

The construction is relativly simple and though the vault is built up-side-down, it fits perfectly with other sections that have a standard construction. Also its not overly piece intensive- only problem might be that it requires 8 1x1 flat tiles per section (there are only 4 used on mine because I've only built half the vault :P )
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This is rad, man! Aquiring all the necessary parts in grey'll be a bit of a stretch but the results look well worth it!
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I am not sure what you mean by upside down here. If you are makign it upside down with the slopes than one could just use its opposite slope to maek it rightside up?

Either way it looks very good. I think the slope pieces like these offer a nice arch. I have a main gate in one of my castles using the inverse slopes I will try digging up a photo.

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Heir of Black Falcon wrote:I am not sure what you mean by upside down here. If you are makign it upside down with the slopes than one could just use its opposite slope to maek it rightside up?

Either way it looks very good. I think the slope pieces like these offer a nice arch. I have a main gate in one of my castles using the inverse slopes I will try digging up a photo.

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Many of those slopes don't come in an inverted form. Heck, many of these slopes are exceedingly rare in light grey or completely unavailable in bley. While the technique is an excellent solution, the bricks that are used are too rare to make it viable in grey. The double convex 75 slope is one of the rarest bricks out there fetching around $8 per brick on bricklink. It isn't even available in bley.

This is definitely a nice techinique. Unfortunately, LEGO seems to have a thing against making some of these elements readily available in bley.
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Blueandwhite wrote:The double convex 75 slope is one of the rarest bricks out there fetching around $8 per brick on bricklink.
While the rarety in light grey is sad, it can't be changed. However, that piece in black, which is very useful for towers, could be easily produced by LTG since the color black has not been changed. Plus that would cut down on prices, which have gone from around $.70-$1.30 a few years ago to $1.50-$5.00 a piece now.

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I had no idea they were that rare. I have a few from the good olde days but had not noticed they were so rare not costly.

Still Maybe something TLC could remedy.

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I also think this is a great technique. My white tower moc used snot 2x2x3 grey corner slopes. As others have pointed out, these are hard to find and expensive. LEGO really should put this and other grey slopes into sets. Or they could make inverse 2x2x3 corner slopes and concave 3x3x1 corner slopes ;)

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Yeah the double convex 75 slopes are pretty expesnive in light grey, but they are much cheaper in dark grey, black and dark reddish brown. In blue they aren't actually that rare, and go for like $.25 if I remember right.

so maybe just buy blue slopes and paint them? Or you could always build the vaults in a different color- it might end up being a nice detail. Anyway at the time the churches were constructed, the interiors were painted, they're just plain stone now because all the paint has worn away.
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draugaer wrote: so maybe just buy blue slopes and paint them?
Sorry, there's no way I'm painting something if I can at all avoid it. I'd rather spend a ton of money.
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castlebuilder100 wrote:
draugaer wrote: so maybe just buy blue slopes and paint them?
Sorry, there's no way I'm painting something if I can at all avoid it. I'd rather spend a ton of money.
As a scale modeler I am seriously considering getting some blue 75 slopes and paint them as well. There is no way I will spend 7 buck a piece for a gray brick... lego purist or not.
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to each his own. I figure blue might be a nice contrast. Everything was painted in stone nice buildings anyways. I have some pictures of a painted wall in castle that really gets this idea across. It was very nice after 700 years! I was at Winchester Cathedral and was shown some paintings that are off public view and they were 12 or 13th century. Lovely colors and work. Inside I'd not worry about blue, reds etc.... not baby blue :wink:

Look forward to seeing some neat buildings with this.

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Post by Romas »

I used a similar technic before, in my cathedral, but without using the 75º corner slopes. You can see how it looks in these photos (badly taken though):

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That looks amazing, its a good solution to avoid using the 75 slopes as well. I'm surprised I haven't come across that model before, do you have anymore pictures of it?
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I do, but it's still 95% complete. When it's done i'll gladly show it off :)
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Wow that is fantastic!!! Nice work Romas! I think that looks amazing. Likely could support the weight of an average sized person by the looks of it!

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