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Re: News: Death of the Classic Horse

Postby rogue27 » Thu Jun 07, 2012 11:23 pm

I've already got 28 years worth of old horses, and I think the new horse is better. This is a welcome change.
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Re: News: Death of the Classic Horse

Postby questforcastle » Fri Jun 08, 2012 12:21 pm

Thank you for an informative topic, guys. Finally got my first two new LEGO horses this week from Lord of the Rings sets. I do like the rearing up of the new horse, and it does seem pretty realistic in proportions, but the smaller head takes some getting used to. Also the barding looks quite big and heavy with the new petite head, perhaps they will make the new barding slightly smaller when they redesign it for poseabilty. I can confirm that the LEGO Kingdoms headgear does not fit the new horse, I tried.

Here are some pics and further comments from me: http://questforbricks.wordpress.com/201 ... new-horse/
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Re: News: Death of the Classic Horse

Postby dyntar » Sat Jun 09, 2012 8:37 am

I just got a 2 of the new horses yesterday. They look great and are the same size as the old ones but the head and skinnier legs make them seem a lot smaller. I've decided that the old horses are going to be Clydesdale's and the new ones will be regular horses. The new horses seem too small when you put a fully armoured knight on them.
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Re: News: Death of the Classic Horse

Postby ottoatm » Sat Jun 09, 2012 4:59 pm

rogue27 wrote:I've already got 28 years worth of old horses, and I think the new horse is better. This is a welcome change.


I'd have to agree here. And I have piles and piles of the old horse... a little variety here is ok. :)

Besides, if push comes to shove and demand for the old horse grows, I wouldn't be surprised to see someone start making the traditional horse in their home and start selling it or something!
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Re: News: Death of the Classic Horse

Postby Kosh » Tue Jun 12, 2012 12:52 am

dyntar wrote:I just got a 2 of the new horses yesterday. They look great and are the same size as the old ones but the head and skinnier legs make them seem a lot smaller. I've decided that the old horses are going to be Clydesdale's and the new ones will be regular horses. The new horses seem too small when you put a fully armoured knight on them.


I've never researched it but I think Clydesdale's are technically draft horses (opposed to being a breed of warhorse). Having the older horses being a heavy warhorse breed (if you want to call them Clydesdale's feel free) and the newer ones being lighter warhorse or even riding horse breeds that'd be an easy sale here. I just got my hands on one of the new horses yesterday evening and looking at them literally side by side there is very little actual difference in size, the more rounded sculpting (to my eye) makes it seem like there should be but there isn't. The head on the new style is actually WIDER than the older styles horse's head (I suspect that is the reason that the old headgear will not work on the new style horse, quick check of available headgear confirms suspicion). The widest part of the hold style horse's head was at the nose/tip and the new style horse is wider there and get a bit wider still up the eyes. The ears are not as wide as the eyes but still are around one and a half times the width on the new style horse compared to the old.
One other thing I hadn't noticed until I started comparing the two side by side is that on the old version all four hoof's have the negative cavity to fit a stud to attach to a plate, the new horse only has 3 such attachments. The left front hoof is molded in mid step is the difference.

I still like the new design and I am VERY appreciative that they were able to incorporate the new pose-ability while retaining the ability to use the old barding.

As kind of a side note, draft horses tend to be slower and able to pull more weight at a steady pace, many warhorses were breed for differing characteristics. While endurance was always sought nomad horse archers (think huns) prized different breeds than fully armored late med-evil knights wearing full plate did.
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Re: News: Death of the Classic Horse

Postby Medieval Guy » Wed Jun 13, 2012 12:38 am

I've now got two of the new horse, and I like them more than the olg one. However, the incompatibility with the old horse accessories is annoying. I think that knights will keep the old horse because it can have armor, while the new horse goes to lightly armored soldiers or peasants. They may only go to one faction, which I would base on the Rohirrim from the LOTR sets, only make the figures yellow.
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Re: News: Death of the Classic Horse

Postby SPACE MARINE » Wed Jun 13, 2012 2:20 pm

Well, I don't have any of the new horses, but, in theory, couldn't you put an old horse head on a new horse to get the best of both worlds?
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Re: News: Death of the Classic Horse

Postby bronx » Wed Jun 13, 2012 6:30 pm

SPACE MARINE wrote:Well, I don't have any of the new horses, but, in theory, couldn't you put an old horse head on a new horse to get the best of both worlds?

Blasphemy.

('Tis not something I would ever consider doing, and while I suppose it could be done, why? It's been stated there will be new horse accessories for the current model of horse.)
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Re: News: Death of the Classic Horse

Postby mencot » Wed Jun 13, 2012 6:39 pm

Yea considering there will be new accessories for the new horse, there is no nedd for that kind of customination and I don´t think it would look really good either.
But Bronx blasphemy? I don´t think that is a fitted word or meaning to use in this situation!
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Re: News: Death of the Classic Horse

Postby Shadowviking » Wed Jun 13, 2012 6:44 pm

SPACE MARINE wrote:Well, I don't have any of the new horses, but, in theory, couldn't you put an old horse head on a new horse to get the best of both worlds?

Assuming the horse is put together the same way and has the same type of ring mount for the head, then that should work, yes.

bronx wrote:(...why? It's been stated there will be new horse accessories for the current model of horse.)

Yes. New horse accessories. Which means new designs. Which means if you want a horse to wear any of the existing designs, you're bang outta luck if you consider swapping pieces to be "blasphemy".

There's no cutting or glue involved, if that isn't clear- the old horse at least could be pried apart at its seams, and merely clicked back together. Little different from switching legs or arms on a minifigure.
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Re: News: Death of the Classic Horse

Postby bronx » Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:46 am

mencot wrote:But Bronx blasphemy? I don´t think that is a fitted word or meaning to use in this situation!

Perhaps I should have thrown a smiley afterwards, considering I meant it more facetiously than actually condemning the inquirer to the depths of Hell and branding them a heretic. :?

Although, had I been serious, we probably would have agreed to disagree and that would have been fine, since opinion is an individual matter. It's a beautiful thing. :wink:

Shadowviking wrote:Yes. New horse accessories. Which means new designs. Which means if you want a horse to wear any of the existing designs, you're bang outta luck if you consider swapping pieces to be "blasphemy".

There's no cutting or glue involved, if that isn't clear- the old horse at least could be pried apart at its seams, and merely clicked back together. Little different from switching legs or arms on a minifigure.

I imagined a full display of surgical tools and an operating room being needed for a horse head transplant; did not realize it was this easy (or presumed as such, since I understood your comment as coming solely from what the old horse model was capable of).

Might be interesting to see an old head on a new body, merely for the purpose of using this headpiece I will otherwise sorely miss.
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Re: News: Death of the Classic Horse

Postby Valendale » Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:33 pm

I got a new horse for myself last week, and I must agree that it is an improvement. I'll be useing them interchangably, as I don't have all that many of the old ones either. I do look foward to seeing what kind of armor is made for the new horse.

Does anyone think that the skeletal horse will be remade in this style? That would be great.
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Re: News: Death of the Classic Horse

Postby Quickblade22 » Mon Jun 25, 2012 5:00 pm

Does anyone think that the skeletal horse will be remade in this style? That would be great.


I don't think they will make a new mold for a skeletal horse, however if they don't, the next best thing would be a black horse with Glow in the Dark printing on it like the mummy in the new Monster Fighters set.
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Re: News: Death of the Classic Horse

Postby mencot » Wed Jun 27, 2012 4:03 am

Quickblade22 wrote:the next best thing would be a black horse with Glow in the Dark printing on it like the mummy in the new Monster Fighters set.

This could be cool :D and make it like a ghost horse
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Re: News: Death of the Classic Horse

Postby questforcastle » Mon Jul 02, 2012 5:45 am

Hi guys, I posed my LEGO horse generations from 1978 to 2012 side by side, if you want to check it out. :) http://questforbricks.wordpress.com/201 ... -portrait/

It does strike me how small the new horse and the minifigure sitting on it seem compared to the old ones.
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