Mattiusxavier wrote:Actually the Lenfel-Loreesi war was not started over insults. It was started over Lenfald claiming that the Prince of Loreos had the King of Roawia killed over the Magic Isle incident which the King decreed to his Lords of the three lands to invade. It wasn't the idea of the Lords themselves, they only obeyed the lawful King of all three realms. Furthermore...the leaders of Loreos didn't just invade over the insult of being called "King Slayers", they invaded over other factors that had to do with economics, unjust years of suffering and other elements. When I state unjust years of suffering I mean those who were punished for living on the side Lenfald received when the King created official borders. The persecution of those who should have been able to live free noble lives under the banner of Loreos was the melting point. Further the death of other Nobles members and families caused by Lenfel assassins didn't help either. The war happened for all those reasons and then to top it off... the leader of Lenfald Lord Triphian kidnapped Mark of Falworth to stay the hand of vengeful Loreesi blades who were on his doorstep with an army. The war was bound to happen...but the causes were pretty clear. However, with all the leaders and that war over. There is no reason to hold any grudges over what transpired since both sides achieved something and lost something in return. The clear result though is that the war itself may have been a set up by the Queen from the beginning who as you pointed out was seeking vengeance upon a King and his Lords who led an invasion of a land where she was hiding in exile.
The war was started over insults, you even had the scene up where the three lords were at each other's throats (I think it was AK Brickster who built that one)- something over Jarius being miffed that he hadn't recieved support that he was supposed to get in some kind of battle or other at the Magic Isles, and rather than discuss the miscommunications like men, all three lords devolved to petty name calling. It might not have been the final tipping point, but it was the start. As for the Magic Isle crusade, The King may have "decreed" it but as the LCC is set up, the King was much more of a figurehead and had little real power. The lords could have easily dismissed this for the terrible idea that it was, but they failed to stand up for their people. In addition, the lords themselves actually pushed the king to reach that edict, as can be seen from several builds and stories inferred from the time. There were a few nobles who pushed the Lords to get this outcome as well. Now, I do not believe for a second that Loreos killed the king. It's just way too convenient. Also, for all I hear about how great the Areani really are, I really sincerely doubt that they would have left such an obvious clue behind if they did. The discovery of that bit of cloth is just far too convenient. About your "years of suffering" that is just a reason given by nobles to the populace to justify their petty war. There isn't any evidence of tyranny in Lenfald. Im not saying Jarius is a tyrant, or Triphian, or Eindrik. I am saying that, at best they have made increasly poor decisions as to the welfare of the people they are supposed to govern, and at worst they are spoiled brats who cannot see the bigger picture and continue to look for any reason to war about and mess with their (I dont think brothers is appropriate here, but I dont have a better word at the moment) brothers stuff.
At this scale, even if they are genuinely trying to right by their people and have simply made terrible mistakes, they are beyond the point of forgiveness. What they have allowed to happen to their lands is not forgivable. By nature of their title and the powers they hold, they cannot be held to the same standards as a common man- they must be better. A regent must be noble, be looking out for the best interests of his people, the lands he governs, and should look at war as a last resort in every case. This has not happened in the slightest. You know what they say about good intentions and the roads they pave. It's just not enough.
I also doubt the Queen is responsible for the wars and such as well. Her current plan, as I have detailed above, simply isn't well thought out enough to indicate this high a level of setup. I think it more likely she just wandered into a good situation and took advantage of it. Either way, the Lords- all of them have made very serious mistakes that have gotten many of the subjects under their protection killed- subjects that had no need to die. They need to answer for this.