Tudor style house in green

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Do Tudor buildngs need "stone" ground floor or tudor ground floor?

Poll ended at Sat Jul 02, 2005 4:32 am

Stone
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74%
Tudor
6
26%
 
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Tudor style house in green

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I have come away from a hiatus in building - and this is the result.
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I put two windows in at a slope. Let me know what you think - I am waiting on some brown roofing to finish it off
I am also wondering what the consensus is do tudor houses need to be stone on the ground floor or tudor on all levels?

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bannear wrote:Let me know what you think - I am waiting on some brown roofing to finish it off
I am also wondering what the consensus is do tudor houses need to be stone on the ground floor or tudor on all levels?
Very original windows there. Always nice to see something new. And I like the use of the Dragon Master arch about the door, it works great.

As far as stone/Tudor goes, I think that both are acceptable. I think that both have been used for the bottom storeys of Tudor houses, so I would say that you're okay to go with either.
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I think it needs stone on the bottom floor, but it still looks good.
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It depends on how you do it, really. Both would look great if done right (just like everything else)! Personally, I'm a fan of stone bottoms. Probably the Robert Jordan influence there....
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Not a bad little MOC you've got there... and the title and doorway seem interesting to me... wonder what the story (if any) is behind that?

Anyway, I'm all for the Stone floor... it just seems... more appealing to the eye? But of course, I really can't say that one is right, and one is wrong.
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In this case I voted for stone. I find that colored tudor buildings need the stone base to make them seem more realistic. In my own buildings I have a combination of both styles and I prefer stone bottoms on my colored tudor houses. In the case of white tudor buildings I think both styles look good.

I reall like the windows design and the DM arch for the doorway, they are nice touches. Can't wait to see it finished.

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I didn't vote in the poll.

Because, I don't think one is better than the other. I've used a mixture of both in my houses and I think the variety makes things look better. (Although I've done more with the stone on the bottom.) Also, I've even done houses where the first floor is ½ stone and ½ tudor.
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Very cool-looking building you've got there. I really like the black-green-red combo with the touch of gold/yellow. The sloping window is neat too.

On the mattter of stone bases, I prefer the use of stone. Houses seem to be to look better to me with some stort of stone foundation. However, I don't think the stone bases always need to be a story high. Perhaps a two or three stacks of gray or dark gray bits would work.
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Lord_Of_The_LEGO wrote: However, I don't think the stone bases always need to be a story high. Perhaps a two or three stacks of gray or dark gray bits would work.
For the house you got going now, this would look best (IMO of course :D ) My only suggestions are to change the color of the shutters to white, for contrast, and do what nate suggested with the two or three stacks of grey. all the green is just a bit too overwhelming.
I think the use of green is great, however, as its an underused color as far as most buildings go, and I love the way you used the classic window on the second floor. Now thats a piece you rarely see used in our theme.

Can't wait to see once the roof is on!

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[quote="Formendacil]I think that both have been used for the bottom storeys of Tudor houses, so I would say that you're okay to go with either.[/quote]

It all depends on availability of local building material.

Southern UK buildings tended to be all 1/2 timbered with a footing of stone of compacted earth. The further north (towards the raiders) you go the more stone gets used.

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Thanks for all the feedback. I appreciate the ideas presented and will look into doing some more building in the next while.
I am still not sure if I have a preference.
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I voted "Tudor because stonework is Tudor. Yes, pedantic should be my middle name. :D

Glossary

Tudor (House of) = label used for the dynasty of English Kings from Henry Tudor through Elizabeth I (1485-1603) now applied to home construction in North America that exhibits outward apearance of timber-frame construction.

timber-frame = house construction using thick timbers to create a framework. Used from prehistoric times through today thoughout in Europe.

wattle and daub = basically "sticks and muck" used to fill in the gaps to make "walls" in a timber-framed building. Watch the first epdisode of "Worst Jobs in History" produced by the BBC (on History TV here in Canada) for demonstration of making wattle and daub.

nogging = bricks used to fill in the gaps to make "walls" in a timber-framed building (brick nogging).

Anyway, I like the stone with timber-frame and wattle and daub on top but either way is fine. I think it depends on what works for your building.

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OOoooh you lucky, lucky B@$#!D! You must live within driving distance of the Weald and Downland Museum (to whose website you linked for the pictures.)

I have been there once (ten years ago now) and I cannot wait to save enough to go back!

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Nice work... I've been planning to do a green tudor for ages... now I'll have to ; )

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Post by architect »

Both styles were used in medieval times. In a really old thread I discussed this. Many timber frame French colonial buildings in the Americas had the posts directly into the ground (along with closely spaced timbers as used by James Brink in his mocs). More permanent timber buildings by the English and French had stone bases. In New England these were later covered over with clapboards.

So if your moc is for a poor person, do not give him/her a stone base. If they are really rich, give them an entirely stone built house.

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