Some defensive help, please!

Commander Redbeard · Post by **Commander Redbeard** » Thu Mar 18, 2004 12:06 am

I just dug out my Fort Legoredo set for a long-anticipated siege. After I examined it, I realized that with only one low wall and no defense except a few cannon ports, it would be easy pickings for any well-equipped army. I mounted a trebuchet on the wall and reinforced the gates, but it is still pathetically defended. Does anyone have any ideas I can use to to strenghen it's fortifications? Also, for my attacking army, I build tons of siege engines, like siege towers, scaling ladders, trebuchets, and battering rams. does anyone have any strategies I can use to defend the fort from these and/or diferent siege engines I could create? Please tell me any ideas or suggestions. Thanks.

LEGOFREAK · Post by **LEGOFREAK** » Thu Mar 18, 2004 1:00 am

tons of siege engines against a wooden palisade?

um - do you have a white flag handy?
and maybe a change of underwear for your commander.

freak

TwoTonic Knight · Post by **TwoTonic Knight** » Thu Mar 18, 2004 1:05 am

Commander Redbeard wrote:I just dug out my Fort Legoredo set for a long-anticipated siege. After I examined it, I realized that with only one low wall and no defense except a few cannon ports, it would be easy pickings for any well-equipped army. I mounted a trebuchet on the wall and reinforced the gates, but it is still pathetically defended. Does anyone have any ideas I can use to to strenghen it's fortifications? Also, for my attacking army, I build tons of siege engines, like siege towers, scaling ladders, trebuchets, and battering rams. does anyone have any strategies I can use to defend the fort from these and/or diferent siege engines I could create? Please tell me any ideas or suggestions. Thanks.

Oily to bed and oily to rise...

If you have any of the large cauldron pieces, they would be used to boil oil, sand or other nasty substance that will flow through armor. Catapults, onagers, and mangonels can be mounted on the castle walls (or cannon if you want to go 1400's). Trebuchets inside the castle walls. Defenders might lower a line and try and snag a battering ram, or place a buffer in front of it (I forget who did a MOC of this, but they got it right). Hoardings to the top of the walls, but that's something of a major addition and makes play more difficult.

The attackers can add mantlets for the archers, tortoises for shelter for the workers to fill a moat. Timmie heads for catapult ammunition (though who knows, maybe the defenders might rejoice at this even if they introduced disease).

Devari · Post by **Devari** » Thu Mar 18, 2004 1:06 am

Um.... Have them build in stone?

Depends what "era" of castle you build in. If you build in early Medieval period, modify it to be Motte-and-Bailey and cut down a bit on the siege engines. Otherwise.... The only way would be to build in grey (stone).

Anonym0us · Post by **Anonym0us** » Thu Mar 18, 2004 3:36 am

Moat or pit,
Cloth, (to shield blows from the battering ram)
Cauldrins filled with boiling water,
Put it on a hill,
Add more siege weapons,
Reinforce the walls and
Give the warriors extra defence.

P.S. Why don't you guys like Timmy?!

wlister · Post by **wlister** » Thu Mar 18, 2004 3:59 am

Timmy is evil, there is no fig more evil than Timmy.

And its not a good kind of evil either. It is that lame kind of steal your left sock kind of evil.

Will

LEGOFREAK · Post by **LEGOFREAK** » Thu Mar 18, 2004 4:01 am

wlister wrote:Timmy is evil, there is no fig more evil than Timmy.

Will

I beg to differ will... Timmy is only an apprentice to evil.
That stupid fright knight witch is the most evil one to date!

Todd · Post by **Todd** » Thu Mar 18, 2004 2:50 pm

Back to the subject at hand...

To defend fort legorado in a castle-era seige is impossible... unless the seige never happens. Consider having a mixed force of cavalry-archers, light lancers, and heavy cavalry added to the defenders. When the attacking army is setting up its seige engines, have your defending cavalry ride forth and destroy the seige engines, ladders, and other such equipment that the enemy brings with them.

-Todd

I_R_NOOB · Post by **I_R_NOOB** » Thu Mar 18, 2004 4:01 pm

Well you could defend it against seige attacks if it was built out of stone. Or make the terrain really tough to get over with seige weapons.

BUT WHOS TIMMY?!?!

Commander Redbeard · Post by **Commander Redbeard** » Thu Mar 18, 2004 11:48 pm

Y

es, I kinda ment it as a palisade wall... I hope my defenders can hold out until the new castles come out. Anyone know an exact date?
I did grab a few cauldrens of oil, but how can I make the fortress on a hill? It's too big for a raised baseplate. If I don't get too many more defences rigged up, I'll have my LEGO tailor working overtime on those white flags...

PS: I found a way to cheat on the battering rams. Take those sticks from the soccer goalies and put it in the battering ram cart with a rubber band... It's sneaky, but it works great!

Devari · Post by **Devari** » Fri Mar 19, 2004 12:01 am

Hm... I'm not great on terrain, so I'll step back and let the great landscaping geniuses come and advice you.

lemon_squeezer2 · Post by **lemon_squeezer2** » Fri Mar 19, 2004 12:17 am

Commander Redbeard wrote:I hope my defenders can hold out until the new castles come out. Anyone know an exact date?

I don't know the exact date, but it is sometime this summer. However, it would be a little rash to go ahead and buy these sets if you are starting a collection. The reason I'm saying this is that sets like these may have some cool and neat pieces, but it doesn't really mean anything if you don't have a nice supply of bricks to do something with them. If you went and got a caslte or some other *older* set (pre 1995), then you will:

A) Get a good supply of old grey (depending on the castle)
B) Get some real bricks - bricks that you can utilize in almost any creation (such as 1 x 2s, 2 x4s, castle wall pieces, etc.)

While you might think "But won't these sets cost too much?" Then the answer is actually no. Without a box, you can get some awesome deals on Ebay or even Bricklink. So if you play your cards right, you can greatly expand your collection for a good price.

Sorry for going off-topic here

so back to the subject at hand.

It would be really hard to defend a wooden fort. One well shot fire arrow would bring the place down. Also, Fort Legoredo never struck me as "casteish", but then again, that's just me

Commander Redbeard · Post by **Commander Redbeard** » Sun Mar 21, 2004 5:59 pm

does anyone have any possible way this fort can be modified to better defend it? I don't have enough pieces to rebuild it in stone, and in a real siege they wouldn't have time to do that anyway. since the fort is so big, how can i actually fit it with a moat (Since it's on a one-side studded baseplate) or situate it on a hill? Do my defenders have any chance, or is it a better strategy to run for it?

PS: In your opinion, what is/was the most defendable and realistic castle set LEGO ever made and what made it your first choice?

Post by **SavaTheAggie** » Sun Mar 21, 2004 6:13 pm

Not to toot my own horn or anything, but if you're looking to situate your creation on a hill, may I suggest what I did for Halcyon Castle?

It's not the greatest of techniques, as building a hill purely out of bricks would be the most realistic.

However, I build my castle on baseplates, and those baseplates sit on tiles inside a mock-hill, which gives the illustion that the castle is, in fact, built on a hill.

The Castle:

http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=688530

The Hill:

http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=688505

--Anthony

lemon_squeezer2 · Post by **lemon_squeezer2** » Mon Mar 22, 2004 11:26 pm

Commander Redbeard wrote:In your opinion, what is/was the most defendable and realistic castle set LEGO ever made and what made it your first choice?

As far as realisticness goes, 6080 takes the cake. While it also ranks fairly well on defencibility, On that issue I would vouch for the "royal knight's castle" due to its well defended gateway even though the other parts of that structure are lacking.

Edit - I ment 6080 on realisticness. Silly me

Classic-Castle.com

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